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Re: WOS autopsy

To: DOUG ODOM <popms@thegrid.net>
Subject: Re: WOS autopsy
From: dahlgren <dahlgren@uconect.net>
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:48:49 -0400
To me for some of the small inch cars i work on this would be the real
deal as we could get the torque multiplication at the start and then
lock it up once out of low gear or possible second..the other gears get
real close together on top and it is hard to tell which one you are in
half the time..
If anyone finds anything more on this i am interested a lot.
Dahlgren

DOUG ODOM wrote:
> 
> Dave; I have seen or read about such a setup some time ago. I think it
> was a drag racer deal. Can't remember the exact details. Sorry.
>                         Doug with CRS
> 
> dahlgren wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone make a deal that will hook a lockup converter to a manual
> > trans??
> > Dahlgren
> >
> > DOUG ODOM wrote:
> > >
> > > Dick; TCI makes front drive kits for the powerglide and TH-350/400. All
> > > that is require is a flange on the crankshaft to connect the input shaft
> > > and front pump to the engine. There is no clutch setup on this type.
> > > Push start only. Circle track cars have been running this type for
> > > years. You can make a clutch setup like the old clutch-flite in drag
> > > cars 30 years ago did. On circle track cars where you have to start
> > > slowly from standing still, you can plumb the main oil pressure line
> > > through a valve back to the pan. You can hook the valve up to a pedal or
> > > lever inside the car. It's hard on the forward clutches and kind of
> > > jerky but works. My friend LLoyd Capanna can make adapters to just about
> > > any engine/trans combo you want. www.lcapanna@wilcap.com
> > >                         Doug Odom in big ditch
> > >
> > > Dick J wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Doug, would you take a minute to describe how you
> > > > run without a converter.  I've been intrigued
> > > > with such things as that and running old slim jim
> > > > hydramatics with clutches, etc, but never really
> > > > knew how it worked.
> > > >
> > > > Dick J
> > > >
> > > > --- DOUG ODOM <popms@thegrid.net> wrote:
> > > > > Tom; I have run a th350 I built for the last 5
> > > > > years with no problems.
> > > > > (now the damn thing will split in half next
> > > > > run) Have run both  and
> > > > > without the converter. I look in the pan every
> > > > > year and find nothing
> > > > > wrong. I will take it apart this winter just to
> > > > > be sure. I use the
> > > > > reverse shift pattern, and like it a lot better
> > > > > than the straight
> > > > > pattern. The gear splits are not great but have
> > > > > to be better than the 2
> > > > > speed glide.              Doug in big ditch
> > > > > #427  MS
> > > > >
> > > > > Thomas E. Bryant wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Keith,
> > > > > > Actually, nitrous is not fuel, its a blower
> > > > > in a bottle. Your only fuel
> > > > > > is gasoline. You knew that!! I just had to
> > > > > respond, nothing to do while
> > > > > > I'm waiting on a trans drive, so I can
> > > > > install my engine. We are trying
> > > > > > another transmission this meet since the
> > > > > Powerglide smoked last meet.
> > > > > > Its a TH350 this time.
> > > > > > Tom, Redding CA - #216 D/GCC
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Keith Turk wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You know Jim.. Other then being interesting
> > > > > Reading...( much more so then
> > > > > > > the Virbrator ) It has always been my goal
> > > > > to learn from others.... This
> > > > > > > List is a Classic example.... I try and
> > > > > share my limited knowledge... (
> > > > > > > direct result of my limited experience )
> > > > > and Honestly wish more folks would
> > > > > > > say.... what went right... what went Wrong
> > > > > and what WORKS....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What I am learning really so far is that
> > > > > Each of us is Very Different and
> > > > > > > have differing Ideas on what Right is...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Some how I don't even think of the Nitrous
> > > > > as Fuel... I almost think of it
> > > > > > > as Cheating.... Obviously it's a Fuel...
> > > > > but it's Fake Fuel.... not like
> > > > > > > Alky or Nitro... which is something I know
> > > > > nothing of.... But would like to
> > > > > > > learn... Not this Week... Or this Year...
> > > > > But someday... and these
> > > > > > > accumulated bits of information are very
> > > > > interesting...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks again for Saying what went wrong and
> > > > > the accumlated info on how you
> > > > > > > found it.... ain't none of this Cheap is
> > > > > it....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Keith ( I am out shopping for the New
> > > > > Billet Crank for the Rodeck.... as the
> > > > > > > original is JUNK!!! ain't that special )
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Jim Dincau" <jdincau@qnet.com>
> > > > > > > To: "Jim Dincau" <jdincau@qnet.com>; "Keith
> > > > > Turk" <kturk@ala.net>; "List
> > > > > > > Land Speed" <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 5:28 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: WOS autopsy
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Re reading your follow-up Keith I
> > > > > realized what was missing from my
> > > > > > > > convoluted first post.
> > > > > > > > We must have killed the pump on the last
> > > > > run at Speedwwek, didn't know it.
> > > > > > > > The dead pump is what left us so lean on
> > > > > the first pass at WOS.
> > > > > > > > Jim in Palmdale who needs to think "why
> > > > > are they asking me that" before he
> > > > > > > > answers.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: Jim Dincau <jdincau@qnet.com>
> > > > > > > > To: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>; List Land
> > > > > Speed
> > > > > > > <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 3:21 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: WOS autopsy
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > From: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>
> > > > > > > > > To: Jim Dincau <jdincau@qnet.com>; List
> > > > > Land Speed
> > > > > > > > > <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 1:16
> > > > > PM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: WOS autopsy
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Not Being a Fuel Guy....
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Whataya mean 'not being a fuel guy',
> > > > > N2O is just as much "fuel" as the
> > > > > > > > > straight alky we run and much less
> > > > > forgiving.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I was trying to sort out what
> > > > > actually went Wrong to Flatten the
> > > > > > > > > bearings.... Jim...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Severe lean condition producing
> > > > > detonation.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Keith...( Hey and Thanks Jim for
> > > > > taking the time to share your
> > > > > > > > mechaincal
> > > > > > > > > woes... )
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You are more than welcome, feel free to
> > > > > use any of these speed secrets
> > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > you see fit.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Jim in palmdale , former member of a
> > > > > drag race team that was accused of
> > > > > > > > > being able to break an anvil in a
> > > > > sandbox with a feather!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > >
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