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RE: NO LBC -- WAY OFF TOPIC

To: "John McEwen" <mmcewen@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca>,
Subject: RE: NO LBC -- WAY OFF TOPIC
From: "doug russell" <dr-doug@classic.msn.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 98 22:00:07 UT
I'd offer up SU carbs but the winner has to be my mother-in-law.  Word on that 
side of the family is that she's been a pure bitch for over 75 years and is 
still going strong!  

Dr. Doug 

-----Original Message-----
From:   owner-mgs@autox.team.net  On Behalf Of John McEwen
Sent:   Tuesday, February 10, 1998 12:35 PM
To:     Blake Wylie
Cc:     mgs@autox.team.net
Subject:        Re: NO LBC -- WAY OFF TOPIC

A man won't fall down if hit by a .45 slug - providing rigor mortis sets in
immediately.

John Browning's invention is an example of one of those pure designs which
basically hasn't changed since its inception.  Things like the sewing
machine, the bicycle and the auto pistol are essentially only refined 19th
century inventions.  The engine in our MGs is also one of those seminal
devices which didn't essentially change for half a century.  There aren't
too many devices in common use today which can boast this "purity".

Can anyone suggest other devices in common use which have remained true to
their first principles since inception.  I would suggest that 50 years
should be the minimum time consideration.  I don't include the concept as
the basis but rather the actual mechanism.

John McEwen

Familiar with John Moses' creations.


>Yeah, a .45 size bullet is pretty big.  Heck, if I were hit with one, I
>would fall down.  :)
>
>Blake
>
>At 12:16 PM 2/10/98 -0600, Dan Ray wrote:
>>I don't know if you've ever fired a Govt. Colt .45, but the bullet is almost
>>slow enough to see, and at half an inch around. If hit with one, at least in
>>the torso or head it certainly would knock you down because the bullet is
>>fat enough to stop in you without going through! I'm no engineer, but if you
>>did the math of 1/3 oz of lead going about 550 or so fps coming to an aprupt
>>stop inside you....
>>The recoil is absorbed somewhat by the action of the gun.
>>Dan
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Trevor Boicey <tboicey@brit.ca>
>>To: John J. Peloquin <peloquin@mamba.bio.uci.edu>
>>Cc: Nory <Nory@webtv.net>; Richard D. Arnold <richard.arnold@juno.com>;
>>mgs@autox.team.net <mgs@autox.team.net>; spridgets@autox.team.net
>><spridgets@autox.team.net>
>>Date: Tuesday, February 10, 1998 10:38 AM
>>Subject: Re: NO LBC -- WAY OFF TOPIC
>>
>>
>>>John J. Peloquin wrote:
>>>> Depends on the weapon. During the early years of the US colonization of
>>>> the Philipines, there was a problem with the side arms issued to US
>>>> military not being powerful enough to knock down machete wielding
>>>> guerrillas before the assailant could hack the soldiers to bits. The .45
>>>> was developed to provide knock-down capability.
>>>
>>>  Please note that "knock-down power" is a product of television
>>>only, not of physics.
>>>
>>>  In order for a bullet to be travelling fast enough to knock
>>>someone down, it would have to be accelerated to this speed
>>>using the firearm held in your hand, and would therefore
>>>have to knock you down as well (or require you at least
>>>to be SERIOUSLY well braced).
>>>
>>>  This simply doesn't happen, as even the most heavily
>>>recoiling small arms far from knock you across the room.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Trevor Boicey
>>>Ottawa, Canada
>>>tboicey@brit.ca
>>>http://www.brit.ca/~tboicey/
>>>
>>
>>
>>





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