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Re: NO LBC -- WAY OFF TOPIC

To: Blake Wylie <bwylie@hiwaay.net>
Subject: Re: NO LBC -- WAY OFF TOPIC
From: "John J. Peloquin" <peloquin@mamba.bio.uci.edu>
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 08:57:56 -0800 (PST)
Dear Netters,

On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Blake Wylie wrote:

=%OI heard something like this... they would charge at the US soldiers, and
=%Othey were usually doped up on morphine or something.  I think the soldiers
=%Owere using .38s at the time, and the bullets would just go through them, and
=%Onot really phase the doped up, charging guerrillas.  I believe the .45 was
=%Oused not really to "knock them down," but to have a better chance of killing
=%Othem with one shot, or at least incapacitate them (which in turn makes a
=%Operson fall down.

Fall down as a result of an impact- sounds like "knocked down" to me.
However, I agree it isn't the energy of the bullet lifting the person up
and back (like TV or the movies) it is the energy of the bullet absorbed
by the target that results in trauma severe enough to incapacitate
immediately. Hence the knock down. By the way, when one hunts, you aim to
put the beast down as quickly as possible. A good heart shot will drop a
deer almost immediately, but not knock him back etc. This quick drop as a
result of being shot is called a knock down and also is, in spite of what
other say I meant, actually what I mean by knock down.

..not really knocked back).  I think that makes sense.  :)
=%O
=%OBlake Wylie
=%O1970 MGB
=%O
=%OAt 11:26 AM 2/10/98 -0500, Trevor Boicey wrote:
=%O>John J. Peloquin wrote:
=%O>> Depends on the weapon. During the early years of the US colonization of
=%O>> the Philipines, there was a problem with the side arms issued to US
=%O>> military not being powerful enough to knock down machete wielding
=%O>> guerrillas before the assailant could hack the soldiers to bits. The .45
=%O>> was developed to provide knock-down capability.
=%O>
=%O>  Please note that "knock-down power" is a product of television
=%O>only, not of physics.
=%O>
=%O>  In order for a bullet to be travelling fast enough to knock
=%O>someone down, it would have to be accelerated to this speed
=%O>using the firearm held in your hand, and would therefore
=%O>have to knock you down as well (or require you at least
=%O>to be SERIOUSLY well braced).
=%O>
=%O>  This simply doesn't happen, as even the most heavily
=%O>recoiling small arms far from knock you across the room.
=%O>
=%O>-- 
=%O>Trevor Boicey
=%O>Ottawa, Canada
=%O>tboicey@brit.ca
=%O>http://www.brit.ca/~tboicey/
=%O>
=%O>
=%O

"Never ascribe to Malice that which can be explained by Ignorance"

John J. Peloquin
Molecular Biology &
  Biochemistry
3205 BioSciences II
UC IRVINE
Irvine, CA 92697-3900
jpeloqui@uci.edu


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