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Re: Clutch, 73 MGB, argh!

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Subject: Re: Clutch, 73 MGB, argh!
From: "gary & traci" <racer@kiva.net>
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 21:52:23 -0500
hello
im new to the list but have several b's and and c's. about a year ago i put
silicone fluid in my clutch master and had a very spongy pedal that released
right off the floor.A month later i read a Grassroots  Motorsports article
on brake fluids the highly recmended not using silicone in the clutch master
cant remember why but ci changed mine back and it solved the problem
----- Original Message -----
From: <REwald9535@aol.com>
To: <johnt@tsquare.com>; <mgs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: Clutch, 73 MGB, argh!


>John,
>Before you take to strong drink and shoot your mentor, try this.
>Push the clutch pedal down to the floor (engine off) place a stick or a
large
>brick on pedal to keep it there.  Come back tomorrow, and see if anything
>changed.  I had a midget clutch job that I did for a friend that wound up
like
>yours.  An old LBC mechanic recommended this procedure, and hottdamn it
>worked! YMMV
>Good luck,
>Rick Ewald
>67 MGB
>
>In a message dated 3/2/99 1:08:16 PM SA Eastern Standard Time,
>johnt@tsquare.com writes:
>
>> First off, I'd like to thank *everybody* for their very helpful
>>  suggestions.
>>
>>
>>  On Mon, 1 Mar 1999, Art Pfenninger wrote:
>>
>>  > The master cylinder can leak from within and not have any leakage
>showing,
>>  > perhaps this is your problem.
>>  > ...Art
>>  >
>>
>>  The master cylinder was replaced with a new one as part of our progress
>>  toward this point (shifting once).
>>
>>  Missing info:  We did replace the pressure plate and clutch disk but
*not*
>>  the release bearing... the "new" one we got was chipped severely and the
>>  old one was still *nearly* the same thickness as the new.  It was
replaced
>>  a couple years before the car was parked.  We also did not replace the
>>  pilot bushing or any of the parts in the clutch fork hinge.  These were
>>  also replaced a couple years before the car was parked, at the same time
>>  as the release bearing.
>>
>>  The clevis bolt at the top end shows no visible signs of wear (it was
>>  replaced about 3 months before the car was parked).  The master cylinder
>>  fork is new with the master cylinder, and therefore not ovalled.  The
bolt
>>  between the slave cylinder and the clutch fork is "new" (it's not quite
>>  right, but there isn't any slop in there).
>>
>>  I don't *think* that I put the clutch plate in backwards... my current
>>  mentor claimed that it would be impossible to do so and get everything
>>  cinched down flat.  I checked the "This Side Forward" (or whatever it
>>  was) label on the clutch disk a few times before assembling, so I don't
>>  think that's it.  I hope.  I have suffered brain fade before, though.
>>
>>  The reason I keep leaning toward air in the lines is the variable nature
>>  of the problem... and the fact that it recovers on its own.  The
>>  possibility that the hose is bad is enticing, as it would explain things
>>  and be cheap to replace.  However, it was installed about 1 year before
>>  the car was parked, so it shouldn't be too bad.
>>
>>  The pressure on the Ezi-Bleed was cranked up pretty high (I thought you
>>  used 30 psi or less, he was using 60+).  I wonder if all that pressure
>>  could have shoved the bubble off to one side (and made it smaller) so it
>>  didn't completely bleed.  Or, emulsified the hydraulic fluid with
>>  teeny-tiny bubbles.  We were using silicone brake fluid, the first time
I
>>  ever saw it, and I couldn't tell if it was excessively cloudy or not.
>>
>>  Well, given that I don't have any money left, I'm thinking of trying
these
>>  things:
>>
>>  1) new clevis bolt and slave cylinder fork if available, otherwise slave
>>  cylinder.
>>  2) new hose.
>>  3) bleeding it some more, the old fashioned way.
>>  4) A tranquilizer dart gun for use on my mentor.  If we have to take out
>>  the engine to replace the release bearing and pilot bushing, I'm going
to
>>  need it.
>>
>>  OK, now you can start yelling about me being my own DPO.
>>
>>  --
>>  John M. Trindle | jtrindle@tsquare.com | Tidewater Sports Car Club
>>  '73 MGB DSP     | '69 Spitfire H Stock | '88 RX-7 C Stock
>>
>


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