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Re: Clutch, 73 MGB, argh!

To: johnt@tsquare.com, mgs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Clutch, 73 MGB, argh!
From: REwald9535@aol.com
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 18:04:07 EST
John,
Before you take to strong drink and shoot your mentor, try this.
Push the clutch pedal down to the floor (engine off) place a stick or a large
brick on pedal to keep it there.  Come back tomorrow, and see if anything
changed.  I had a midget clutch job that I did for a friend that wound up like
yours.  An old LBC mechanic recommended this procedure, and hottdamn it
worked! YMMV
Good luck,
Rick Ewald
67 MGB

In a message dated 3/2/99 1:08:16 PM SA Eastern Standard Time,
johnt@tsquare.com writes:

> First off, I'd like to thank *everybody* for their very helpful
>  suggestions.
>  
>  
>  On Mon, 1 Mar 1999, Art Pfenninger wrote:
>  
>  > The master cylinder can leak from within and not have any leakage
showing,
>  > perhaps this is your problem.
>  > ...Art
>  > 
>  
>  The master cylinder was replaced with a new one as part of our progress
>  toward this point (shifting once).
>  
>  Missing info:  We did replace the pressure plate and clutch disk but *not*
>  the release bearing... the "new" one we got was chipped severely and the
>  old one was still *nearly* the same thickness as the new.  It was replaced
>  a couple years before the car was parked.  We also did not replace the
>  pilot bushing or any of the parts in the clutch fork hinge.  These were
>  also replaced a couple years before the car was parked, at the same time
>  as the release bearing.
>  
>  The clevis bolt at the top end shows no visible signs of wear (it was
>  replaced about 3 months before the car was parked).  The master cylinder
>  fork is new with the master cylinder, and therefore not ovalled.  The bolt
>  between the slave cylinder and the clutch fork is "new" (it's not quite
>  right, but there isn't any slop in there).
>  
>  I don't *think* that I put the clutch plate in backwards... my current
>  mentor claimed that it would be impossible to do so and get everything
>  cinched down flat.  I checked the "This Side Forward" (or whatever it 
>  was) label on the clutch disk a few times before assembling, so I don't
>  think that's it.  I hope.  I have suffered brain fade before, though.
>  
>  The reason I keep leaning toward air in the lines is the variable nature
>  of the problem... and the fact that it recovers on its own.  The
>  possibility that the hose is bad is enticing, as it would explain things
>  and be cheap to replace.  However, it was installed about 1 year before
>  the car was parked, so it shouldn't be too bad. 
>  
>  The pressure on the Ezi-Bleed was cranked up pretty high (I thought you
>  used 30 psi or less, he was using 60+).  I wonder if all that pressure
>  could have shoved the bubble off to one side (and made it smaller) so it
>  didn't completely bleed.  Or, emulsified the hydraulic fluid with
>  teeny-tiny bubbles.  We were using silicone brake fluid, the first time I
>  ever saw it, and I couldn't tell if it was excessively cloudy or not.
>  
>  Well, given that I don't have any money left, I'm thinking of trying these
>  things:
>  
>  1) new clevis bolt and slave cylinder fork if available, otherwise slave
>  cylinder.
>  2) new hose.
>  3) bleeding it some more, the old fashioned way.
>  4) A tranquilizer dart gun for use on my mentor.  If we have to take out
>  the engine to replace the release bearing and pilot bushing, I'm going to
>  need it.
>  
>  OK, now you can start yelling about me being my own DPO.
>  
>  -- 
>  John M. Trindle | jtrindle@tsquare.com | Tidewater Sports Car Club
>  '73 MGB DSP     | '69 Spitfire H Stock | '88 RX-7 C Stock
>  

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