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Subject: V-8s
From: Johnmowog@aol.com
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 22:53:00 EDT
-------------my .02 re Various posts on the V8 subject------------
The reason you don't see much turbocharging in B's is because the bottom ends 
don't hold up well to the sudden on-set of power delivered when the boost 
comes on. The supercharger is more linear. Also, the amount of heat all that 
exhaust plumbing delivers into the engine compartment gets hard to get rid of.

As for the BOP/Rover 3.5 liter, in the BV8 it was limited to 135bhp, 
partially because of the competes-with-TR-and-Jag factor introduced by 
British (phlegm-sucking)Leyland. It can easily be built to a 1hp/cu spec and 
be very reliable. The David Hardcastle book Moss sells details the British 
approach, as well as all the different heads and pistons available

My decidedly more American car oriented machinist states that with the right 
combination of rods, cranks and heads, all off of various buick/olds 
products, the motor can easily be pushed up to 5 liters, 300hp+ and cheaply 
at that. Lots of parts are available... the marine and aircraft folks 
apparently have appreciated this motor more that the 4wheeled gearheads do.

No engine swap is easy. The big advantages of the Rover are this:
(1) it fits, with factory mounts even!
(2) it's been done and well...
(3) The character issue:  maybe the biggest is the weight... nothing else 
except perhaps a turbo'd rotory can deliver the power without making the B 
heavier in front... and if you just want a nose heavy muscle car you could 
buy an old camero for less trouble... much of the fun of the B is the agility 
and balance of the car.
(4) many of the other motors mentioned have to have not just the engine, or 
engine and trans, but a whole pile of wiring, computers, sensors, etc 
transplanted as well, the newer motors simply aren't designed to just run on 
a carburator.
(5)Sometimes there is a case for not having "too" much power...
Years ago I test drove a 327 powered B. First, the nose-heavy-ness did really 
change the character of the car, even though the owner had done a spectacular 
job of cutting and reinforcing to get it back against the firewall. (no 
heater, none needed :-)  )  Mostly, the wheelbase of the car was the problem, 
with 400hp on tap, even the well-modified suspension wasn't capable of 
keeping the car from wanting to spin on it's axis exery time you shifted and 
got back on the power. 
The owner of the car was selling because... he bought a TR8, and from his 
perspective, once the novelty of having such a powerful brute was over (10.8 
sec. at 135mph with open headers in the 1/4mile) he found it wasn't very 
usable to be so overpowered. The TR8 on the otherhand, even with it's 
calif.smog emasculated 135hp, was a well-balanced, goog performing, well 
behaved car that he was able to enjoy all the time, not just at the strip or 
cruises and burnout contests.

So  maybe the idea of a nicely built 215 BOP?Rover isn't so dull ... once the 
romance of "more power, huhuhu" is over the moderation approach may be 
welcome....

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