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Re: MGB Brake Shoe Orientation

To: Barney Gaylord <barneymg@ntsource.com>
Subject: Re: MGB Brake Shoe Orientation
From: "Thomas James Pokrefke, III" <pokrefke@netdoor.com>
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 01:09:17 -0500
Cripes Barney.  What the hell do you do for a living?  I have never met
anyone who is so car-oriented in my life.  Very eloquent elaboration.

I wonder if the Triumph list has a mental - powerhouse like Mr. Gaylord. 
I'm glad he's on our team.

Thomas James Pokrefke, III
pokrefke@netdoor.com

Audentes fortuna iuvat


Barney Gaylord <barneymg@ntsource.com> wrote (and I quote):

> At 07:46 PM 9/4/99 -0700, Bud Krueger wrote:
> >.... The shoes are asymmetric, i.e., ....  There is more shoe showing at
> one end of the lining than at the other. ....
> >
> >Long story short .... The part of the shoe with the most metal not covered
> by the lining, i.e., the part with the tapered ends goes into the adjuster
> side toward the front of the car. ....
> >
> >.... I'll bet that Barney can give us a good explanation about why ....
> 
> Why sure, glad to be of assistance.  Thought you could catch me on this one
> late at night, huh?  Brace yourself.
> 
> Forward motion of the car being most common, think of drum rotationin that
> direction.  Drum brakes by their nature are self-energizing.  When you
> apply the brakes, the force of the hydraulic cylinder pushes the shoes out
> against the drum.  Friction between the drum and the shoe wants to force
> the shoes to rotate in the same direction as the drum, so that force is
> going in a circumferencial direction along the surface of the drum.  The
> anchor point for each shoe is an inch or so inside of the drum.  For the
> leading shoe this is bearing against the adjuster.  For the trailing shoe
> this is bearing against the abutment at the top.  The distance between the
> anchor point and the inside of the drum is a mechanical lever arm that
> creates a rotational force on the shoe, wanting to rotate around the anchor
> point, so the shoe wants to push outwards more against the drum.  This is
> the self energizing affect.
> 
> Now lay a right angle with one leg running through the anchor point and the
> other leg being always tangent to the drum.  As you move this arrangement
> around you notice that at tangent points farther from the anchor point the
> tagent leg is more distant from the anchor point, making a longer lever arm
> for the circumferential force to work on.  That means that the end of the
> shoe farther from the anchor point sees a little more force against the
> drum, while the end closer to the anchor point gets less force against the
> drum.
> 
> Locating the friction pad more toward the far end of the shoe effectively
> puts more area of lining there where the force is higher, and less lining
> at the end near the anchor point where there is less force.  This should
> lead to more even wear on the lining.  If not for this arrangement the end
> of the lining farthest from the anchor point would wear faster and get down
> the the metal base first.  As the linings are shot when the thickness
> anywhere along the length approches nil, even wear along the length is a
> noble goal.
> 
> Did anyone actually understand that?  The idea here is that when you
> understand the function you don't have to go looking for the pictures any
> more to get the proper orientation.
> 
> Barney Gaylord
> 1958 MGA with an attitude
>     http://www.ntsource.com/~barneymg
> 


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