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To: "Adam J. Ginsburg, P.E." <ajginsburg@msn.com>, <mgs@autox.team.net>,
Subject: Re: Strange ---
From: <paul.hunt1@virgin.net>
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 16:53:33 +0100
That usually causes just a groan from the starter, or a chattering solenoid,
but in both cases the warning light will dim right out.  IME the battery
ground cable to body connection is the worst - unless you have those useless
'cup and screw' battery connectors that have streched over time and someone
has stuffed with cigarette paper ...

In the case of a break in the starter energising circuit the warning light
will remain at (or very near) full brilliance when the key is turned to
'start'.

PaulH.

----- Original Message -----
From: David Councill <dcouncil@imt.net>
To: <paul.hunt1@virgin.net>; Adam J. Ginsburg, P.E. <ajginsburg@msn.com>;
<mgs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: Strange ---


> I was thinking more on the lines of a bad connection at the battery
> terminals. This is what I would check first. Buy one of those battery
> terminal cleaners available at any automotive store and clean all four
> terminals (two with a single battery). This is something that probably
> should be done at least twice a year anyway.
>
> If that doesn't work, clean the battery ground connection and check the
> battery cable connections to the starter and maybe clean them. Failing
> that, I would then resort to the voltmeter and start checking circuits,
> maybe look at the solenoid on the starter. But start with the easy stuff
first.
>
> David
> 67 BGT
> 72 B (restoration project)
>
> At 03:54 PM 10/7/01 +0100, paul.hunt1@virgin.net wrote:
> >Could be the starter relay clicking and not operating the solenoid, or
the
> >solenoid clicking and not powering the starter, or broken
wires/connections
> >along the way.  The latter is much louder then the former and in a
different
> >enough location (relay is high up on RH inner wing, solenoid is down on
the
> >starter) to tell if you have your head under the bonnet/hood while
someone
> >else turns the key.
> >
> >Circuit is ignition switch - white/red - starter relay - white/brown -
> >solenoid.  From the solenoid to the motor is either an exposed copper
link
> >or an insulated cable.
> >
> >You should get 12v all through the circuit - dropping to 10v or less if
the
> >starter is being powered but not turned - which is instantly detectable
by a
> >dimming ignition warning light as you turn the key to start.
> >
> >PaulH.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Adam J. Ginsburg, P.E. <ajginsburg@msn.com>
> >To: <mgs@autox.team.net>
> >Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 1:19 PM
> >Subject: RE: Strange ---
> >
> >
> > > I got back into the car, and attempted to restart.
> > >
> > > Nothing---
> > >
> > > Just clicking, the car didnt even turn over.....
> > >
> > > It is a 1974, Chrome Bumper, convertible....

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