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Re: Air in Cooling System Was Re: u-joints-successful

To: "Eugene Balinski" <eugeneb@nni.com>, "MG list" <mgs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Air in Cooling System Was Re: u-joints-successful
From: "MonteMorris" <mmorris@nemr.net>
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 22:46:54 -0500
Gene,
I tried your method and got a few bubbles out, but very few. The coolant
level was about the same today after I drove it to work as it was a ffew
days ago when I filled it. This morning on the way to work the temp gauge
was in the red again, fans running. Tonight on the way home when it was
about 90 degrees outside the temp stayed normal the whole time. Weird.
Seems I have heard that running with timing too advanced can cause
overheating so I checked the timing and it was running 12-13 BTDC at idle so
that shouldn't be the cause. I finally got around to fine tuning the ZS carb
and hopefully got it tweeked about right.
So we'll see what tomorrow's temp gauge reading is.
Also got around to fixing the interior courtesy light. It's a rocker switch
(plastic) that had broken a piece off that held the moving metal rocker
contact in place. This light is a  $40 Moss part, so I started improvising.
I tried JB welding the metal contact to the broken stub of plastic last
night and it wouldn't hold. Tonight I found some fine wire thread in my
wife's sewing room (I sure didn't know they had wire thread?), wound this
around the metal contact and the stub of the broken plastic part and then JB
Welded over the whole mess. Seems to have worked. This JB Weld stuff has a
million uses!
Thanks for the overheating advice,
Monte
          79B, Carmine
          67B, BRG
          74 1/2 Rust, parts car

----- Original Message -----
From: "Eugene Balinski" <eugeneb@nni.com>
To: "MonteMorris" <mmorris@nemr.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 4:53 PM
Subject: Air in Cooling System Was Re: u-joints-successful


> Monte,
>
>     Air can get tapped in various places in the engine when
> you drain and refill.   It makes the  coolant level appear
> full when it is not.   When I refilled my system ('80B)
> after replacing my thermostat, I filled it from the plug on
> top of the thermostat and not from the overflow tank.    I
> filled the system to where it appeared full.  Then I would
> squeeze  the bottom radiator hose (gently) and burp out the
> air.  As the coolant went down, I would fill.   I kept
> doing this until all of the air was out of the system.
>   Then I put the plug on the thermostat and went over to
> the overflow tank.  I put a little coolant in there and
> contnued to burp/fill/burp until there was some residual
> coolant in the tank and there was no more air.
>
>  When you squeeze the bottom hose, you should be able to
> hear and feel the coolant.  When the engine is cool, open
> up the overflow tank and squeeze the bottom hose.  Look
> into the tank. The coolant in the tank should move up and
> down as you squeeze.  If all of a sudden, there are bubbles
> and the coolant disappears, then you might want to add a
> little coolant and try again.     Keep doing this until you
> can have some residual coolant.   Also, remember to have
> the heater temperature set on HOT as it uses the same fluid
> and air can get trapped there.  If you have the ability to
> elevate the front of the car a little, then that helps.
>
> Given the fact that your fan was malfunctioning, you might
> want to check for air.  It is easy.    Just remember not to
> overfill, or the system will dump the extra coolant
> (assuming that you have the correct value pressure cap and
> the hoses are in good shap)  : - )
>
> As you have been driving, and you have topped it off, you
> may be just fine...
>
> Let me know what you find....
>
> Gene
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 2 Sep 2002 16:09:45 -0500
>  "MonteMorris" <mmorris@nemr.net> wrote:
> > Gene,
> > This is the first I've heard of this. To bleed the air
> > out, do you just
> > check it several times within a few days after filling
> > and top it up?
> > Monte
> >           79B, Carmine
> >           67B, BRG
> >           74 1/2 Rust, parts car
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Eugene Balinski" <eugeneb@nni.com>
> > To: "MonteMorris" <mmorris@nemr.net>
> > Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 12:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: u-joints-successful
> >
> >
> > >
> > > > Is it possible that they were not working because
> > > >the antifreeze was a little low in the system? The
> > aftermarket fan switch
> > has
> > > >a sensor that goes into the top of the upper radiator
> > hose.
> > >
> > > Yes ! BTW,  Make sure that you bleed all of the air out
> > of the cooling
> > > system.  It is importanty as it can lead to overheating
> > later.
> > > Gene
> > >
> > > 80 B
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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