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Subject: Re: [Mgs] brakes
From: "James Schulte" <schultejim@msn.com>
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 10:17:28 -0500
Dave
Thanks, that's a great suggestion!



Jim Schulte
Aquatic Coordinator Souderton S.D.
Co-Secretary Philadelphia MG Club
Co-Coordinator MG 2008
Eastern HS WP Officials Scheduler





>From: "Councill, David" <dcouncill@msubillings.edu>
>To: "James Schulte" <schultejim@msn.com>,<Mgs@autox.team.net>
>Subject: RE: [Mgs] brakes
>Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 08:04:26 -0700
>
>I think the key is trying to isolate the area of the brakes where the
>symptom first appears or maybe some other sign. My 72B had a similar
>problem where air was re-entering the system that I had a hell of a time
>finding. But when re-bleeding the system several times, I noticed that
>the bleeding of the passenger rear circuit was the one where the stream
>picked up air and was a bit weaker ejecting brake fluid. I finally found
>an extremely small pin hole on the metal line circling the rear axle -
>small enough that there was a very minimal amount of brake fluid
>seepage, just enough to mark the hole.
>
>One test you can do is when you start having brake problems again, drive
>over to the nearest dirt road (I live on one so its easy for me). Get
>going maybe 10 mph or more then hit on the brakes enough to lock them up
>and see from the read marks which brakes are working on which ones are
>not or are weaker. With a 70B, dual master cylinder, you should still be
>able to at least determine if its front or rear brakes. Master cylinder
>problems would normally effect both rears, both fronts, or the entire
>system. If its line problems, you can isolate the area this way.
>
>David Councill
>67 BGT
>72 B
>
>
>I've always had success bleeding brakes even on my MGC. But, my 70 B is
>really giving me a tussle. I have braided lines in the front and a
>simple
>rubber line in the back. I've always used a peddle pusher whom would
>press
>on my command after I would open the screw then I would close it and
>have
>them release the peddle. It's always worked on the second or third bleed
>
>after a test drive. But this time it just doesn't want to cooperate.
>I've
>replaced the MC with a new one from Moss. Has anyone had issues with
>them?
>Any blow by in the cylinder. Problem is, I don't see any leak, so how do
>I
>know?
>I'm not seeing any leaks anywhere and the air bubbles in the lines go
>away
>with several pumps and releases. Only to come back after a test drive
>and a
>soft peddle upon braking on the road.
>If it is a bad hose, how do I tell? Have the pusher depress with the
>screw
>closed? Will the rubber actually bulge? Would this cause air to get in
>the
>line if no leaks are apparent?
>I have bled this system 5 times already with no success. I get a firm
>peddle
>after closing the screw and then go for a test drive and it goes back to
>
>being soft. Help!
>
>
>
>Jim Schulte
>Aquatic Coordinator Souderton S.D.
>Co-Secretary Philadelphia MG Club
>Co-Coordinator MG 2008
>Eastern HS WP Officials Scheduler
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