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Re: [Mgs] follow up on mga 1622 suspension issues

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Subject: Re: [Mgs] follow up on mga 1622 suspension issues
From: Gordie Bird via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2015 11:43:42 +0000 (UTC)
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Thread-topic: follow up on mga 1622 suspension issues
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Guys, the differences in the deluxe/twin cam and the 1600/1622 are all in t=
he brakes (other than the motor in the twinkie). Deluxe/twinkie have dunlop=
 disks on all four corners and have a different master cyl. 1600/1622 have =
Lockheed disks up front and drums in the rear. The "deluxe" was born when M=
G discontinued the twin cam and still had a number of twin cam chassis left=
 over. They made no note at the time of which cars received the twin cam ch=
assis'.=20
The Moss catalog has a section in the back specifically for the twin cam an=
d deluxe which includes the braking system. Refer to that section to see wh=
at parts are different. I have always had slop in the spacer inside of the =
hub until the nut is tightened on my MKII. If your spindle has too much wea=
r that the inner bearing race spins on it, you may be able to repair it wit=
h a speedy sleeve.=20
HTH=20

Gordie Bird=20
'62 MGA=20


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From: "Clayton Kirkwood via Mgs" <mgs@autox.team.net>=20
To: mgs@autox.team.net=20
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 4:39:51 PM=20
Subject: Re: [Mgs] follow up on mga 1622 suspension issues=20



Yep. From what I=E2=80=99ve learned here, one of the big differences betwee=
n a 1600 and 1622 MkI and MkII v. the deluxe and twin cam, is the brakes. U=
p front, the deluxe and twin cam have the Dunlop braking which do require t=
he shims. It isn=E2=80=99t shown in the picture you quoted, but below in th=
e listing, there are shims listed for the deluxe and twin cam.=20



crk=20




From: Charley & Peggy Robinson [mailto:ccrobins@ktc.com]=20
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 1:12 PM=20
To: crk@godblessthe.us; mgs@autox.team.net=20
Subject: Re: [Mgs] follow up on mga 1622 suspension issues=20




Argh! Here's the intended page:=20

http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=3D29224=20

I looked more carefully. There is a different spacer, outer bearing & the s=
hims for the Mk II DeLuxe & Twin Cam.=20

Trying to find the right MGA is a PITA. It looks like the Mk.II DeLuxe had =
a 1622cc engine but it's still located as a MGA 1600 in most of the manuals=
. I wish Barney would check in.=20

CR=20




On 7/3/2015 1:24 PM, Clayton Kirkwood via Mgs wrote:=20




Um, Charley, that=E2=80=99s a nice picture of a plane, but I don=E2=80=99t =
think it has the shims you speak of:<)))=20









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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #0000=
00"><div>Guys, the differences in the deluxe/twin cam and the 1600/1622 are=
 all in the brakes (other than the motor in the twinkie).&nbsp; Deluxe/twin=
kie have dunlop disks on all four corners and have a different master cyl.&=
nbsp; 1600/1622 have Lockheed disks up front and drums in the rear.&nbsp; T=
he "deluxe" was born when MG discontinued the twin cam and still had a numb=
er of twin cam chassis left over.&nbsp; They made no note at the time of wh=
ich cars received the twin cam chassis'.<br></div><div>The Moss catalog has=
 a section in the back specifically for the twin cam and deluxe which inclu=
des the&nbsp; braking system.&nbsp; Refer to that section to see what parts=
 are different.&nbsp; I have always had slop in the spacer inside of the hu=
b until the nut is tightened on my MKII.&nbsp; If your spindle has too much=
 wear that the inner bearing race spins on it, you may be able to repair it=
 with a speedy sleeve.<br></div><div>HTH<br></div><div><br></div><div>Gordi=
e Bird<br></div><div>'62 MGA<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><hr id=
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xt-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">=
<b>From: </b>"Clayton Kirkwood via Mgs" &lt;mgs@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>To=
: </b>mgs@autox.team.net<br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, July 3, 2015 4:39:51 PM<br=
><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Mgs] follow up on mga 1622 suspension issues<br><div>=
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--></style><div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"color:#1F497D">Yep. From what I=E2=80=99ve learned here, one of the big=
 differences between a 1600 and 1622 MkI and MkII v. the deluxe and twin ca=
m, is the brakes. Up front, the deluxe and twin cam have the Dunlop braking=
 which do require the shims. It isn=E2=80=99t shown in the picture you quot=
ed, but below in the listing, there are shims listed for the deluxe and twi=
n cam.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp=
;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">crk</span>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></p><=
div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt =
0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"color:windowtext">Fro=
m:</span></b><span style=3D"color:windowtext"> Charley &amp; Peggy Robinson=
 [mailto:ccrobins@ktc.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 03, 2015 1:12 PM<b=
r><b>To:</b> crk@godblessthe.us; mgs@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Mgs] follow up on mga 1622 suspension issues</span></p></div></div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.=
0pt">Argh!&nbsp; Here's the intended page:<br></p><div><br></div><a href=3D=
"http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=3D29224"; tar=
get=3D"_blank">http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexI=
D=3D29224</a><br><div><br></div>I looked more carefully.&nbsp; There is a d=
ifferent spacer, outer bearing &amp; the shims for the Mk II DeLuxe &amp; T=
win Cam.<br><div><br></div>Trying to find the right MGA is a PITA.&nbsp; It=
 looks like the Mk.II DeLuxe had a 1622cc engine but it's still located as =
a MGA 1600 in most of the manuals.&nbsp; I wish Barney would check in.<br><=
div><br></div>CR<span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt"></span><p></p><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal">On 7/3/2015 1:24 PM, Clayton Kirkwood via Mgs wrote:</p></d=
iv><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Um, Charley, that=E2=80=99s a nice =
picture of a plane, but I don=E2=80=99t think it has the shims you speak of=
:&lt;)))</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nb=
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