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Subject: Re: [Mgs] FW: High priced V8
From: Barrie Robinson via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2019 17:51:34 -0400
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Hello all,

When one looks at nice a shiny Rover 3.5L configured to give 137 bhp it 
is impossible not to jiggle it up a bit more !!!   The engine arrived 
with SU's but Edelbrocks were such a nice fit and with the tweeks took 
it up to well over 200 bhp.  Edelbrocks are Webers just relabeled as NAs 
are not familiar with Webers.

On 8/17/2019 12:43 PM, Jim Ray via Mgs wrote:
>
> I agree with Barrie in every respect except the original MGB V8 came 
> with twin SU HIF6 carburetors instead of Webers , had a compression 
> ratio of 8.26 : 1 and the same camshaft that was in the Rover version 
> of the 3.5 engine. This is based on two sources, the MGB GT V8 
> Workshop Manual Supplement and personal observations of Barry 
> Rosenberg's original right-hand drive car he imported from England.
>
> Jim Ray
>
> 1980 MGB V8 conversion
>
> On 8/17/2019 11:19 AM, Barrie Robinson via Mgs wrote:
>> I built from the ground up an MGB GT V8 because they were never 
>> imported into NA - I had the "normal" MGB GT which did not have 
>> enough grunt to overtake lorries on the highway.   The building of a 
>> factory MGB GT V8 included the Rover 3.5L V8 with HC pistons, Webers 
>> and mild cam.(370lbs as against 450lbs of Ford 302ci engine).   The 
>> result was enough grunt to embarrass Porches and Mustangs as well as 
>> those rice burners.  Unlike the Ford powered rebuilds my "factory" 
>> MGB has prefect weight distribution so is like handling a go-kart.  
>> It sips fuel and at highway speed it ticks over at just over 1k 
>> rpm.   On top of this exceptionally blessed machine it looks great. 
>> None of this NA desire to have a BIG car and the added body work to 
>> achieve this.   Bags of groceries etc. room using the back trunk 
>> "door".  But only one other passenger can be accommodated albeit not 
>> in comfort.   It is only a family of two car!
>>
>> So to me the price is almost right except for that Ford engine. It 
>> would be easier to buy this instead of going through the rebuild 
>> process.  But why not a lighter legendary Rover V8 which could be 
>> opened  to 5L - (but why? - 3.5 is enough!).  The 1974-plus MGBs have 
>> engine bays configured to take the Rover engines. The other thing is 
>> that there is obviously much deviation from the original MGB GT so 
>> that it may not excite ardent MGB devotees.   But it does look 
>> nice................
>>
>> Cheers
>> Barrie Robinson
>> Chairman
>> Aston Martin Feltham Club
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/17/2019 8:41 AM, dave via Mgs wrote:
>>>
>>> Completely NUTS!!!!  No way that car is worth that.
>>>
>>> *From:* Mgs <mgs-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Richard 
>>> Lindsay via Mgs
>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 16, 2019 7:46 PM
>>> *To:* MGs <mgs@autox.team.net>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Mgs] High priced V8
>>>
>>> Probably a fun car to drive, may be comfortable and drive nicely 
>>> but...of no interest to me at all. Such is life and to each his own. 
>>> But the asking price! Holy cow! I can buy a fair condition 308GTS 
>>> for that kind of money.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, 2:26 PM Chris Moog via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net 
>>>
>>>     Don't know if anyone posted this but
>>>
>>>     https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1974-mg-mgb-gt-17/
>>>
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    <font size="-1"><font face="Arial">Hello all,<br>
        <br>
        When one looks at nice a shiny Rover 3.5L configured to give 137
        bhp it is impossible not to jiggle it up a bit more !!!   The
        engine arrived with SU's but Edelbrocks were such a nice fit and
        with the tweeks took it up to well over 200 bhp.  Edelbrocks are
        Webers just relabeled as NAs are not familiar with Webers.<br>
      </font></font><br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/17/2019 12:43 PM, Jim Ray via Mgs
      wrote:<br>
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      <p>I agree with Barrie in every respect except the original MGB V8
        came with twin SU HIF6 carburetors instead of Webers , had a
        compression ratio of 8.26 : 1 and the same camshaft that was in
        the Rover version of the 3.5 engine. This is based on two
        sources, the MGB GT V8 Workshop Manual Supplement and personal
        observations of Barry Rosenberg's original right-hand drive car
        he imported from England.</p>
      <p>Jim Ray</p>
      <p>1980 MGB V8 conversion<br>
      </p>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/17/2019 11:19 AM, Barrie
        Robinson via Mgs wrote:<br>
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        <font size="-1"><font face="Arial">I built from the ground up an
            MGB GT V8 because they were never imported into NA - I had
            the "normal" MGB GT which did not have enough grunt to
            overtake lorries on the highway.   The building of a factory
            MGB GT V8 included the Rover 3.5L V8 with HC pistons, Webers
            and mild cam.(370lbs as against 450lbs of Ford 302ci
            engine).   The result was enough grunt to embarrass Porches
            and Mustangs as well as those rice burners.  Unlike the Ford
            powered rebuilds my "factory" MGB has prefect weight
            distribution so is like handling a go-kart.  It sips fuel
            and at highway speed it ticks over at just over 1k rpm.   On
            top of this exceptionally blessed machine it looks great. 
            None of this NA desire to have a BIG car and the added body
            work to achieve this.   Bags of groceries etc. room using
            the back trunk "door".  But only one other passenger can be
            accommodated albeit not in comfort.   It is only a family of
            two car!<br>
            <br>
            So to me the price is almost right except for that Ford
            engine. It would be easier to buy this instead of going
            through the rebuild process.  But why not a lighter
            legendary Rover V8 which could be opened  to 5L - (but why?
            - 3.5 is enough!).  The 1974-plus MGBs have engine bays
            configured to take the Rover engines. The other thing is
            that there is obviously much deviation from the original MGB
            GT so that it may not excite ardent MGB devotees.   But it
            does look nice................<br>
            <br>
            Cheers<br>
            Barrie Robinson<br>
            Chairman<br>
            Aston Martin Feltham Club<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
          </font></font>
        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/17/2019 8:41 AM, dave via Mgs
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Completely NUTS!!!!  No way that car is
              worth that.<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Mgs <a
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              <b>On Behalf Of </b>Richard Lindsay via Mgs<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 16, 2019 7:46 PM<br>
              <b>To:</b> MGs <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
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              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Mgs] High priced V8<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Probably
                  a fun car to drive, may be comfortable and drive
                  nicely but...of no interest to me at all. Such is life
                  and to each his own. But the asking price! Holy cow! I
                  can buy a fair condition 308GTS for that kind of
                  money.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, 2:26 PM
                      Chris Moog via Mgs &lt;<a
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Don't know if anyone posted
                      this but<br>
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