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Isn't there a 'hidden' key in the key fob, Hans? My Mazda CX-5 has
push-button start, but there is a key inside the fob that can be removed in
case of the battery in the fob dying..... So the the least, you can always
get in the car.
And in that scenario, if you use the key fob itself to push the start
button, the car will start....
Dan D
Central NJ USA
http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/
On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:38 PM Hans Duinhoven via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net=
>
wrote:
> So true. This week my wife hardly could get the doors unlocked of our
> business Mazda 6 sw. reason was that the battery of the key became empty.
> Stupid thing does that without a warning. One should carry the spare key
> with them, in order to prevent such thing making someone stranded in the
> middle of nowhere=E2=80=A6
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Hans
>
> 71 BGT where everything is manual, unless operated by foot
>
>
>
> *Van:* Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] *Namens *Barrie Robinson
> via Mgs
> *Verzonden:* woensdag 13 november 2019 16:46
> *Aan:* mgs@autox.team.net
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D transmission?
>
>
>
> Hello folks,
>
> OMG. Isn't it amazing how current technology demands complications. Use=
d
> to be you put in a key turned it and "broom broom". Now is having
> something in your pocket, and switching on and then pushing 'Start',
> But then everything these days is "marketing groomed". My new radio has
> oodles of "features" (most of which I do not understand) but a lousy weak
> station reception - my $40 portable radio is MUCH better IN the car that
> the $$$$$$ "car" radio !!!!!!
>
> Barrie - he of MGB GT V8 fame:-)
>
> On 11/12/2019 12:19 PM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:
>
> As an interface designer, I am puzzled by the =E2=80=9Cpush for on=E2=80=
=9D solution. It
> seems somehow inappropriate as well as unnecessarily complex.
>
>
>
> Overdrive seems to me to be a function where a clear on/off toggle is the
> natural mode of engagement. Sometimes I want it on, sometimes off, and I
> want to know which mode it is in.
>
>
>
> But then, I think the =E2=80=9Cstart button=E2=80=9D on modern cars is id=
iotic. So YMMV.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Max Heim
>
> '66 MGB
>
>
>
> On Nov 12, 2019, at 5:43 AM, Charley Robinson <Charley38@twc.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I have a neat little module that does as you describe except it has no
> warning light. It is plugged into the wiring between the manual OD switc=
h
> and the transmission switches. In the case of my CBB it's sitting on the
> shelf on the passenger side of the heater box. It's all solid state, has
> never given me any trouble. I bought the thing on line a few years ago
> but I don't remember the name of the seller. I absolutely love the thing=
!
>
> CR
>
> On 11/12/2019 2:26 AM, PaulHunt73 via Mgs wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
>
> I got fed up with OD auto-engaging as I changed from 2nd to 3rd so built =
a
> circuit that once out of an OD gear, it locked it out semi-permanently
> until I turned the manual switch off and back on again. That has a warni=
ng
> light to say it has been locked out, rather than one to say it is engaged=
.
> More info here http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/gearstext.htm#sequencer
>
>
>
> PaulH.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Isn't there a 'hidden' key in the key fob, Han=
s? My Mazda CX-5 has push-button start, but there is a key inside the fob t=
hat can be removed in case of the battery in the fob dying..... So the the =
least, you can always get in the car.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>And in that =
scenario, if you use the key fob itself to push the start button, the car w=
ill start....<br><div><br></div><div>Dan D</div><div>Central NJ USA<br clea=
r=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D=
"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"http://dandibiase.cbintouch.c=
om/" target=3D"_blank">http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/</a></div></div></di=
v><br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cla=
ss=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:38 PM Hans Duinhoven via Mgs &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";>mgs@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<=
br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor=3D"=
white" lang=3D"NL"><div class=3D"gmail-m_-2712669027750614608WordSection1">=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa=
mily:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">So true. This week my wife ha=
rdly could get the doors unlocked of our business Mazda 6 sw. reason was th=
at the battery of the key became empty. Stupid thing does that without a wa=
rning. One should carry the spare key with them, in order to prevent such t=
hing making someone stranded in the middle of nowhere=E2=80=A6<u></u><u></u=
></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:=
11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u><=
/u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-siz=
e:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Cheers,<u></u><=
u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-=
size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Hans <u></u>=
<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font=
-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">71 BGT wher=
e everything is manual, unless operated by foot<u></u><u></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-famil=
y:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><=
div><div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;bor=
der-top:1pt solid rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:wi=
ndowtext">Van:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,s=
ans-serif;color:windowtext"> Mgs [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:mgs-bounces@auto=
x.team.net" target=3D"_blank">mgs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>Namens </b=
>Barrie Robinson via Mgs<br><b>Verzonden:</b> woensdag 13 november 2019 16:=
46<br><b>Aan:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">m=
gs@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] Determine build date f=
or an O/D transmission?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bott=
om:12pt"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Hello =
folks,<br><br>OMG.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Isn't it amazing how current technology =
demands complications. Used to be you put in a key turned it and "broo=
m broom".=C2=A0 Now is having something in your pocket, and=C2=A0 swit=
ching on and then pushing 'Start',=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 But then every=
thing these days is "marketing groomed".=C2=A0=C2=A0 My new radio=
has oodles of "features" (most of which I do not understand) but=
a lousy weak station reception - my $40 portable radio is MUCH better IN t=
he car that the $$$$$$ "car" radio !!!!!!<br><br>Barrie - he of M=
GB GT V8 fame<span class=3D"gmail-m_-2712669027750614608moz-smiley-s1">:-)<=
/span></span><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 11/12/2019 12=
:19 PM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D=
"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">As an interface d=
esigner, I am puzzled by the =E2=80=9Cpush for on=E2=80=9D solution. It see=
ms somehow inappropriate as well as unnecessarily complex. <u></u><u></u></=
p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">Overdrive seems to me to be a function where a clear on/off =
toggle is the natural mode of engagement. Sometimes I want it on, sometimes=
off, and I want to know which mode it is in.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal">But then, I think the =E2=80=9Cstart button=E2=80=9D on modern cars is=
idiotic. So YMMV.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></=
u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10pt">--<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt">Max Heim<u></u><u></u></span></p></div=
><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt">'66 MGB<u><=
/u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt=
"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Nov 12, 2019, at 5:43 AM, Charley Robinson=
<<a href=3D"mailto:Charley38@twc.com"; target=3D"_blank">Charley38@twc.c=
om</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font=
-family:Verdana,sans-serif;background:white">I have a neat little module th=
at does as you describe except it has no warning light.=C2=A0 It is plugged=
into the wiring between the manual OD switch and the transmission switches=
. In the case of my CBB it's sitting on the shelf on the passenger side=
of the heater box.=C2=A0 It's all solid state, has never given me any =
trouble. =C2=A0 I bought the thing on line a few years ago but I don't =
remember the name of the seller.=C2=A0 I absolutely love the thing!</span><=
span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><br><br><span s=
tyle=3D"background:white">CR</span><br style=3D"font-variant-caps:normal;te=
xt-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><br></span><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font=
-family:Verdana,sans-serif">On 11/12/2019 2:26 AM, PaulHunt73 via Mgs wrote=
:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-=
bottom:5pt;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;=
font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">=EF=BB=BF</span><span style=3D"font-size:9pt=
;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-f=
amily:Verdana,sans-serif">I got fed up with OD auto-engaging as I changed f=
rom 2nd to 3rd so built a circuit that once out of an OD gear, it locked it=
out semi-permanently until I turned the manual switch off and back on agai=
n.=C2=A0 That has a warning light to say it has been locked out, rather tha=
n one to say it is engaged.=C2=A0 More info here<span class=3D"gmail-m_-271=
2669027750614608apple-converted-space">=C2=A0</span><a href=3D"http://www.m=
gb-stuff.org.uk/gearstext.htm#sequencer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.mgb-s=
tuff.org.uk/gearstext.htm#sequencer</a></span><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;=
font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;fon=
t-family:Verdana,sans-serif">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;fon=
t-family:Verdana,sans-serif">PaulH.</span><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font=
-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p></blockquote><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><=
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