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Yes Dan,=20
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There seems to be a emergency procedure.=20
A car driver should learn this procedure by heart, because when the key =
does not enable to open the doors, you also cannot read the car manual =
and see what the emergency procedure is!=20
But with your method I should be able to get into the car and read the =
manual!
=20
Cheers!
Hans
=20
Van: Dan DiBiase [mailto:dan.dibiase@gmail.com]=20
Verzonden: woensdag 13 november 2019 21:37
Aan: Hans Duinhoven
CC: Barrie Robinson; mglist
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D transmission?
=20
Isn't there a 'hidden' key in the key fob, Hans? My Mazda CX-5 has =
push-button start, but there is a key inside the fob that can be removed =
in case of the battery in the fob dying..... So the the least, you can =
always get in the car.=20
=20
And in that scenario, if you use the key fob itself to push the start =
button, the car will start....
=20
Dan D
Central NJ USA
http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/
=20
=20
On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:38 PM Hans Duinhoven via Mgs =
<mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:
So true. This week my wife hardly could get the doors unlocked of our =
business Mazda 6 sw. reason was that the battery of the key became =
empty. Stupid thing does that without a warning. One should carry the =
spare key with them, in order to prevent such thing making someone =
stranded in the middle of nowhere=E2=80=A6
=20
Cheers,
Hans=20
71 BGT where everything is manual, unless operated by foot
=20
Van: Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens Barrie Robinson via =
Mgs
Verzonden: woensdag 13 november 2019 16:46
Aan: mgs@autox.team.net
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D transmission?
=20
Hello folks,
OMG. Isn't it amazing how current technology demands complications. =
Used to be you put in a key turned it and "broom broom". Now is having =
something in your pocket, and switching on and then pushing 'Start', =
But then everything these days is "marketing groomed". My new radio =
has oodles of "features" (most of which I do not understand) but a lousy =
weak station reception - my $40 portable radio is MUCH better IN the car =
that the $$$$$$ "car" radio !!!!!!
Barrie - he of MGB GT V8 fame:-)
On 11/12/2019 12:19 PM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:
As an interface designer, I am puzzled by the =E2=80=9Cpush for =
on=E2=80=9D solution. It seems somehow inappropriate as well as =
unnecessarily complex.=20
=20
Overdrive seems to me to be a function where a clear on/off toggle is =
the natural mode of engagement. Sometimes I want it on, sometimes off, =
and I want to know which mode it is in.
=20
But then, I think the =E2=80=9Cstart button=E2=80=9D on modern cars is =
idiotic. So YMMV.
=20
--
Max Heim
'66 MGB
=20
On Nov 12, 2019, at 5:43 AM, Charley Robinson <Charley38@twc.com> wrote:
=20
I have a neat little module that does as you describe except it has no =
warning light. It is plugged into the wiring between the manual OD =
switch and the transmission switches. In the case of my CBB it's sitting =
on the shelf on the passenger side of the heater box. It's all solid =
state, has never given me any trouble. I bought the thing on line a =
few years ago but I don't remember the name of the seller. I absolutely =
love the thing!
CR
On 11/12/2019 2:26 AM, PaulHunt73 via Mgs wrote:
=EF=BB=BF=20
I got fed up with OD auto-engaging as I changed from 2nd to 3rd so built =
a circuit that once out of an OD gear, it locked it out semi-permanently =
until I turned the manual switch off and back on again. That has a =
warning light to say it has been locked out, rather than one to say it =
is engaged. More info here =
http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/gearstext.htm#sequencer
=20
PaulH.
=20
=20
=20
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=20
Mgs@autox.team.net
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Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive
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lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Yes Dan, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>There seems to be a emergency procedure. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>A car driver should learn this procedure by heart, because when the =
key does not enable to open the doors, you also cannot read the car =
manual and see what the emergency procedure is! <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>But with your method I should be able to get into the car and read =
the manual!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Cheers!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Hans<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Van:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Dan DiBiase [mailto:dan.dibiase@gmail.com] <br><b>Verzonden:</b> =
woensdag 13 november 2019 21:37<br><b>Aan:</b> Hans =
Duinhoven<br><b>CC:</b> Barrie Robinson; mglist<br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: =
[Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D =
transmission?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Isn't =
there a 'hidden' key in the key fob, Hans? My Mazda CX-5 has push-button =
start, but there is a key inside the fob that can be removed in case of =
the battery in the fob dying..... So the the least, you can always get =
in the car. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>And in that scenario, if you use the key fob itself to =
push the start button, the car will start....<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Dan D<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Central NJ USA<br =
clear=3Dall><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/"; =
target=3D"_blank">http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/</a><o:p></o:p></p></di=
v></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:38 PM Hans Duinhoven via Mgs <<a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";>mgs@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
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lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>So true. This week my wife hardly could get the doors unlocked of our =
business Mazda 6 sw. reason was that the battery of the key became =
empty. Stupid thing does that without a warning. One should carry the =
spare key with them, in order to prevent such thing making someone =
stranded in the middle of nowhere=E2=80=A6</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Cheers,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Hans </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>71 BGT where everything is manual, unless operated by =
foot</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Van:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Mgs [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">mgs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>Namens </b>Barrie =
Robinson via Mgs<br><b>Verzonden:</b> woensdag 13 november 2019 =
16:46<br><b>Aan:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">mgs@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] =
Determine build date for an O/D =
transmission?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hello =
folks,<br><br>OMG. Isn't it amazing how current technology =
demands complications. Used to be you put in a key turned it and =
"broom broom". Now is having something in your pocket, =
and switching on and then pushing 'Start', But =
then everything these days is "marketing groomed". =
My new radio has oodles of "features" (most of which I do not =
understand) but a lousy weak station reception - my $40 portable radio =
is MUCH better IN the car that the $$$$$$ "car" radio =
!!!!!!<br><br>Barrie - he of MGB GT V8 fame<span =
class=3Dgmail-m-2712669027750614608moz-smiley-s1>:-)</span></span><o:p></=
o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On =
11/12/2019 12:19 PM, Max Heim via Mgs =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>As an =
interface designer, I am puzzled by the =E2=80=9Cpush for on=E2=80=9D =
solution. It seems somehow inappropriate as well as unnecessarily =
complex. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Overdrive =
seems to me to be a function where a clear on/off toggle is the natural =
mode of engagement. Sometimes I want it on, sometimes off, and I want to =
know which mode it is in.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>But then, I =
think the =E2=80=9Cstart button=E2=80=9D on modern cars is idiotic. So =
YMMV.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>--</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Max Heim</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>'66 =
MGB</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Nov 12, =
2019, at 5:43 AM, Charley Robinson <<a =
href=3D"mailto:Charley38@twc.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">Charley38@twc.com</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";background:wh=
ite'>I have a neat little module that does as you describe except it has =
no warning light. It is plugged into the wiring between the manual =
OD switch and the transmission switches. In the case of my CBB it's =
sitting on the shelf on the passenger side of the heater box. It's =
all solid state, has never given me any trouble. I bought the =
thing on line a few years ago but I don't remember the name of the =
seller. I absolutely love the thing!</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><br><br><spa=
n style=3D'background:white'>CR</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:wh=
ite'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>On =
11/12/2019 2:26 AM, PaulHunt73 via Mgs =
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;font-variant-caps:normal;te=
xt-align:start;word-spacing:0px'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:wh=
ite'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>=EF=BB=BF</sp=
an><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> =
</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:wh=
ite'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>I got fed =
up with OD auto-engaging as I changed from 2nd to 3rd so built a circuit =
that once out of an OD gear, it locked it out semi-permanently until I =
turned the manual switch off and back on again. That has a warning =
light to say it has been locked out, rather than one to say it is =
engaged. More info here<span =
class=3Dgmail-m-2712669027750614608apple-converted-space> </span><a =
href=3D"http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/gearstext.htm#sequencer"; =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/gearstext.htm#sequencer</a>=
</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:wh=
ite'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> </span=
><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:wh=
ite'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>PaulH.</spa=
n><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p><=
/p></div></blockquote></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p><=
/p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><=
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