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To: "rrengineer.mike@att.net" <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Seat Fittings.
From: Robert's New iPad via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2020 07:46:33 -0500
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    New foams can make a difference far greater than anticipated, not just i=
n comfort but that the seat is not squirming around underneath you.=20
    Another approach to replacing webbing or diaphragm is to have a tent/can=
vas/sailmaker sew a director=E2=80=99s chair sort of canvas across the frame=
.=20
    If new foams lift so hight that your head bumps the top, trimming the fo=
am will help a bit.  If new height puts you above the aiming of the mirror, t=
ry a mirror & its stem from an MGB open car. You can gain a bit of improveme=
nt to the angle of rear vision.
Bob


> On Mar 3, 2020, at 5:12 PM, Michael MacLean via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> w=
rote:
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> I just ordered both.
> Mike M
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> On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 2:01 PM, Max Heim
> <mvheim@sonic.net> wrote:
> In my case, a new rubber diaphragm with the old seat foam worked OK. Then n=
ew seat foam made it more supportive. I think you will want both.
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> --
> Max Heim
> '66 MGB
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>> On Mar 3, 2020, at 1:49 PM, Michael MacLean via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> w=
rote:
>>=20
>> I am finally addressing the driver's seat in my "new to me" MGB GT.  When=
 I sit in the driver's seat the cushion bottoms out so that I am being jabbe=
d on both sides by the tubular frame.  Not conducive to long distance drivin=
g.  The foam in the seat must be original as it has turned brown in exposed a=
reas and is way too soft.  Where I am confused is the seats have cross webbi=
ng to support the foam cushion.  According to the catalogs, webbing started i=
n use in 1970 on.  My GT is a 1969 model which should be a rubber diaphragm i=
nstead of webbing.  Knowing what I know about the assembly line for MGs and o=
ther Brit cars, it is totally possible some 69s got out with the newer seats=
.  More likely the seats were swapped sometime during the 51 years since it c=
ame off the assembly line.  The webbing is installed with aluminum flat bars=
 screwed to the tubular frame.  The webbing is sewn around the aluminum bars=
.  I don't know if this is a retrofit or original.  I already ordered anothe=
r foam cushion to replace this old one.  Just wondering if the new foam will=
 be enough to solve the bottoming out problem, or should I have replaced the=
 webbing or even gone back to a rubber diaphragm?  Like to hear from you guy=
s that rebuilt your seats on your own.
>> Mike MacLean
>> 69 MGB GT
>> 56 Austin Healey BN2
>> 60 Bugeye
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nb=
sp; &nbsp; New foams can make a difference far greater than anticipated, not=
 just in comfort but that the seat is not squirming around underneath you.&n=
bsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp; Another approach to replacing webbi=
ng or diaphragm is to have a tent/canvas/sailmaker sew a director=E2=80=99s c=
hair sort of canvas across the frame.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nb=
sp; If new foams lift so hight that your head bumps the top, trimming the fo=
am will help a bit. &nbsp;If new height puts you above the aiming of the mir=
ror, try a mirror &amp; its stem from an MGB open car. You can gain a bit of=
 improvement to the angle of rear vision.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob</div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Mar 3, 2020, at 5:12 PM, Mic=
hael MacLean via Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";>mgs@autox.tea=
m.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>I just ordered both.<div id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_1583273538024">Mi=
ke M<br><br><div id=3D"ymail_android_signature"><a id=3D"ymail_android_signa=
ture_link" href=3D"https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=3DInProduct&amp;c=3DG=
lobal_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&amp;af_wl=3Dym&amp;af_s=
ub1=3DInternal&amp;af_sub2=3DGlobal_YGrowth&amp;af_sub3=3DEmailSignature">Se=
nt from AT&amp;T Yahoo Mail on Android</a></div> <br> <blockquote style=3D"m=
argin: 0 0 20px 0;"> <div style=3D"font-family:Roboto, sans-serif; color:#6D=
00F6;"> <div>On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 2:01 PM, Max Heim</div><div>&lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:mvheim@sonic.net";>mvheim@sonic.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div> </div> <div s=
tyle=3D"padding: 10px 0 0 20px; margin: 10px 0 0 0; border-left: 1px solid #=
6D00F6;"> <div id=3D"yiv4963544312"><div><div class=3D"yiv4963544312"><div c=
lass=3D"yiv4963544312">In my case, a new rubber diaphragm with the old seat f=
oam worked OK. Then new seat foam made it more supportive. I think you will w=
ant both.</div><div class=3D"yiv4963544312"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv4=
963544312"><div class=3D"yiv4963544312">
<div class=3D"yiv4963544312" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);letter-spacing:norm=
al;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;w=
ord-wrap:break-word;"><div class=3D"yiv4963544312" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0=
);letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:norm=
al;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word;"><div class=3D"yiv4963544312" styl=
e=3D"margin:0px;font-size:13px;">--</div><div class=3D"yiv4963544312" style=3D=
"margin:0px;font-size:13px;min-height:16px;">Max Heim</div><div class=3D"yiv=
4963544312" style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:13px;">'66 MGB</div></div></div>
</div>

<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv4963544312"><div><blockquote class=3D"yiv4963=
544312" type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"yiv4963544312yqt6389847299 yQTDBase" id=3D=
"yiv4963544312yqtfd08985"><div class=3D"yiv4963544312">On Mar 3, 2020, at 1:=
49 PM, Michael MacLean via Mgs &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" class=3D=
"yiv4963544312" ymailto=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";>mgs@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br cl=
ear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv4963544312Apple-interchange-newline"></div><div cla=
ss=3D"yiv4963544312"><div class=3D"yiv4963544312yqt6389847299 yQTDBase" id=3D=
"yiv4963544312yqtfd53889">I am finally addressing the driver's seat in my "n=
ew to me" MGB GT.&nbsp; When I sit in the driver's seat the cushion bottoms o=
ut so that I am being jabbed on both sides by the tubular frame.&nbsp; Not c=
onducive to long distance driving.&nbsp; The foam in the seat must be origin=
al as it has turned brown in exposed areas and is way too soft.&nbsp; Where I=
 am confused is the seats have cross webbing to support the foam cushion.&nb=
sp; According to the catalogs, webbing started in use in 1970 on.&nbsp; My G=
T is a 1969 model which should be a rubber diaphragm instead of webbing.&nbs=
p; Knowing what I know about the assembly line for MGs and other Brit cars, i=
t is totally possible some 69s got out with the newer seats.&nbsp; More like=
ly the seats were swapped sometime during the 51 years since it came off the=
 assembly line.&nbsp; The webbing is installed with aluminum flat bars screw=
ed to the tubular frame.&nbsp; The webbing is sewn around the aluminum bars.=
&nbsp; I don't know if this is a retrofit or original.&nbsp; I already order=
ed another foam cushion to replace this old one.&nbsp; Just wondering if the=
 new foam will be enough to solve the bottoming out problem, or should I hav=
e replaced the webbing or even gone back to a rubber diaphragm?&nbsp; Like t=
o hear from you guys that rebuilt your seats on your own.<div class=3D"yiv49=
63544312" id=3D"yiv4963544312yMail_cursorElementTracker_1583271943323">Mike M=
acLean</div><div class=3D"yiv4963544312" id=3D"yiv4963544312yMail_cursorElem=
entTracker_1583271953401">69 MGB GT</div><div class=3D"yiv4963544312" id=3D"=
yiv4963544312yMail_cursorElementTracker_1583271964995">56 Austin Healey BN2<=
/div><div class=3D"yiv4963544312" id=3D"yiv4963544312yMail_cursorElementTrac=
ker_1583271978483">60 Bugeye<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv4963544312"><br c=
lear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv4963544312"><div class=3D"yiv4963544312" id=3D"yiv=
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