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As a designer with experience in human factors design and UX design, I =
can state that digital numeric speedometer displays are completely =
inappropriate. The constant flickering of numerals (64,65,66,65) conveys =
zero information and distracts the eye from the road. Personally, I =
think they should be banned. With an analog needle (or a digital =
representation of an analog needle), these tiny variations in speed are =
unnoticeable, and one can actually check the current speed with =
peripheral vision detecting the rough angle of the needle, without =
having to consciously parse individual numerals. The old LCD displays =
were the worst, because all these numerals look the same at a glance: 2, =
3, 5, 6, 8, 9. Also 1 and 7. But it doesn=E2=80=99t matter how they =
gussy up the numeral font, it=E2=80=99s just a bad idea.
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The same goes for every instrument. Which display conveys more useful =
information with less concentration required? =E2=80=9CF=E2=80=9D, or =
=E2=80=9C17.9gal remaining=E2=80=9D?
Touchscreen controls are another abomination that shouldn=E2=80=99t be =
allowed in automotive systems that are active while the vehicle is in =
motion. You absolutely have to take your eyes off the road to manipulate =
them. All active vehicle controls should feature tactile feedback, so =
they can be operated by touch. The classic headlight push/pull knob is a =
great example that has yet to be improved upon. The rotary stalk switch =
on more modern cars is actually a step backward, because the direction =
of rotation needed is not obvious.
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Max Heim
'66 MGB
> On Mar 10, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Dan DiBiase via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> =
wrote:
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> Ok, I'm going to represent the non-Luddites among us ;-) ... I love =
new technology and the possibilities it brings. My daughter has the =
newest car in our family, a 2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 75th =
Anniversary Edition, and it has every bell and whistle (and some sirens, =
too) available at the time. Top of the line AWD system that is settable =
for various surfaces (or auto), heated everything, cooled front seats, =
engine stop/start, gigantic screen with plenty of info available, etc. =
The only thing I dislike (besides the mass) is that the programmable =
instrument display only has a digital speedometer (for some reason, I =
have a hard time holding a constant speed with that thing).=20
>=20
> My next car will be a Tesla, either a Model 3 or a Model Y (which I =
prefer). I have a deposit on a Cybertruck (which I'll probably roll over =
to the Model Y).=20
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> Dan D
> '76B, '65B
> Central NJ USA
> http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/ <http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/>
>=20
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 9:56 AM Barrie Robinson via Mgs =
>=20
> -- Hello folks,
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> I have this gripe about new cars and this is the only big platform I =
have on which to sound off. I do have my own Aston Martin Feltham Club =
but that is only 150 members. I am getting exremely puzzled as my 2003 =
Golf is getting a bit sad although it still goes like a rocket. There =
is a little rust and one of the courtesy lights does not work. =
However, whenever I have a look at new ones they are gadget rich and the =
dash is becoming like one from a 737. Why on earth does there have to =
be a rear end crash avoiding system (used to be rear brake lights) as =
well as an unwanted-lane changing warning (used to be keeping eyes on =
the road) to say nothing of bluetooth (where is yellow and red?), =
Spotify (dog treatment?), Hands free telephone (used to be concentration =
on the road) and the dreaded in your face screen which like today's TV =
and Internet is intent on delivring information you don't really need =
(when did you last ponder over your oil temperature?). So instead of =
forking out $30-40,000 I am going to have the Golf all tarted up and =
enjoy another 170k kilometers. The only regret will be - it does not =
have a powered rear end tailgate - but maybe I could get that =
retro-fitted! And in this day and age electonic/electrical gadgets die =
first ($$$$$)- and Lucas smoke is unattainable now.
>=20
> I like my MGB GT so much that maybe another as a 'family' car could be =
an alternative - but not 100% restored just road worthy and oiled up to =
the hllt to counter winter driving conditions. Trouble is I would want =
to drop in a Rover V8 as the engine bay was made for it on later cars - =
and the broom broom is so much better. Or I coul find a Golf owned by a =
little old lady with a tiny mileage. OMG, I am a little old man (I will =
not get a sex change) with a low mileage Golf !!!! Oh sherbert - now =
what do I do? =20
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> Barrie
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">As a designer with experience in human factors design and UX =
design, I can state that digital numeric speedometer displays are =
completely inappropriate. The constant flickering of numerals =
(64,65,66,65) conveys zero information and distracts the eye from the =
road. Personally, I think they should be banned. With an analog needle =
(or a digital representation of an analog needle), these tiny variations =
in speed are unnoticeable, and one can actually check the current speed =
with peripheral vision detecting the rough angle of the needle, without =
having to consciously parse individual numerals. The old LCD displays =
were the worst, because all these numerals look the same at a glance: 2, =
3, 5, 6, 8, 9. Also 1 and 7. But it doesn=E2=80=99t matter how they =
gussy up the numeral font, it=E2=80=99s just a bad idea.<div =
class=3D""> </div><div class=3D"">The same goes for every =
instrument. Which display conveys more useful information with less =
concentration required? =E2=80=9CF=E2=80=9D, or =E2=80=9C17.9gal =
remaining=E2=80=9D?<br class=3D""><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Touchscreen controls are another =
abomination that shouldn=E2=80=99t be allowed in automotive systems that =
are active while the vehicle is in motion. You absolutely have to take =
your eyes off the road to manipulate them. All active vehicle controls =
should feature tactile feedback, so they can be operated by touch. The =
classic headlight push/pull knob is a great example that has yet to be =
improved upon. The rotary stalk switch on more modern cars is actually a =
step backward, because the direction of rotation needed is not =
obvious.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div =
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font-size: 13px;" class=3D"">'66 MGB</div></div></div>
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<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Mar 10, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Dan DiBiase via Mgs <<a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; class=3D"">mgs@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Ok, I'm going to represent the non-Luddites among =
us ;-) ... I love new technology and the possibilities it brings. My =
daughter has the newest car in our family, a 2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee =
Limited 75th Anniversary Edition, and it has every bell and whistle (and =
some sirens, too) available at the time. Top of the line AWD system that =
is settable for various surfaces (or auto), heated everything, cooled =
front seats, engine stop/start, gigantic screen with plenty of info =
available, etc. The only thing I dislike (besides the mass) is that the =
programmable instrument display only has a digital speedometer (for some =
reason, I have a hard time holding a constant speed with that =
thing). <div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">My =
next car will be a Tesla, either a Model 3 or a Model Y (which I =
prefer). I have a deposit on a Cybertruck (which I'll probably roll over =
to the Model Y). <div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Dan D</div><div class=3D"">'76B, '65B</div><div =
class=3D"">Central NJ USA<br clear=3D"all" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div=
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" =
data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><a =
href=3D"http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/</a></div></div></div><br =
class=3D""></div></div></div><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar =
10, 2020 at 9:56 AM Barrie Robinson via Mgs <<a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; class=3D"">mgs@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:<br class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<br class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">-- Hello folks,<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
I have this gripe about new cars and this is the only big platform
I have on which to sound off. I do have my own Aston =
Martin
Feltham Club but that is only 150 members. I am getting =
exremely
puzzled as my 2003 Golf is getting a bit sad although it still
goes like a rocket. There is a little rust and one of =
the
courtesy lights does not work. However, whenever I =
have a look
at new ones they are gadget rich and the dash is becoming like one
from a 737. Why on earth does there have to be a rear =
end crash
avoiding system (used to be rear brake lights) as well as an
unwanted-lane changing warning (used to be keeping eyes on the
road) to say nothing of bluetooth (where is yellow and red?),
Spotify (dog treatment?), Hands free telephone (used to be
concentration on the road) and the dreaded in your face screen
which like today's TV and Internet is intent on delivring
information you don't really need (when did you last ponder over
your oil temperature?). So instead of forking =
out $30-40,000 I
am going to have the Golf all tarted up and enjoy another 170k
kilometers. The only regret will be - it does not have =
a powered
rear end tailgate - but maybe I could get that =
retro-fitted! And
in this day and age electonic/electrical gadgets die first
($$$$$)- and Lucas smoke is unattainable now.<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
I like my MGB GT so much that maybe another as a 'family' car
could be an alternative - but not 100% restored just road worthy
and oiled up to the hllt to counter winter driving =
conditions.
Trouble is I would want to drop in a Rover V8 as the engine bay
was made for it on later cars - and the broom broom is so much
better. Or I coul find a Golf owned by a little old lady with a
tiny mileage. OMG, I am a little old man (I will not get a =
sex
change) with a low mileage Golf !!!! Oh sherbert - now what =
do I
do? <br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
Barrie<br class=3D"">
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