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To: Max Heim <mvheim@sonic.net>, "mgs@autox.team.net" <mgs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Exhaust Sound
From: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 17:08:40 +0000 (UTC)
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 I just returned from the muffler shop to see about replacing the "cherry b=
omb" muffler with something a little more quiet and deep.=C2=A0 When it was=
 put up on the lift the single muffler looked like a stock MG muffler paint=
ed red, not a typical cherry bomb glass pack muffler.=C2=A0 APT in Riversid=
e (10 minutes from my house) sells a Maniflow performance system for $350.=
=C2=A0 I'm not sure I would be any better off sound wise with it.=C2=A0 Now=
 I am thinking of just buying a stock resonator and muffler from Moss and h=
aving the muffler shop put them in and be done with it.
Mike MacLean1969 MGB GT=20
1960 Bugeye1956 BN2 Lemans

    On Friday, July 31, 2020, 9:44:48 AM PDT, Max Heim <mvheim@sonic.net> w=
rote: =20
=20
 Ah, you see, that=E2=80=99s the case for the exhaust system as an expendab=
le maintenance item =E2=80=94 its location makes it vulnerable to road haza=
rds. The fact that it will last 100 years does=E2=80=99t help if you wipe i=
t out on a speed bump in three years.
I think the comment that stainless steel has a harsher sound than mild stee=
l is also relevant.

But mainly, I=E2=80=99m too cheap to spend the money on something that isn=
=E2=80=99t an appearance or a performance item. In fact, the exhaust system=
 on my car right now is a freebie cast-off from a local acquaintance who wa=
s =E2=80=9Cupgrading=E2=80=9D. The local exhaust shop welded up a few holes=
 and put in a new muffler for less than $100. In service since the early 90=
s.

--Max Heim'66 MGB

On Jul 31, 2020, at 12:24 AM, Bert Palte <palte@gmx.net> wrote:
When I bought my car in 1989, it came with an aftermarket exhaust system. I=
 think the name,=C2=A0pressed into the muffler, was Zakspeed or Janspeed or=
 something.I liked the sound (music).=C2=A0However, after hitting a road bu=
mp, it was beyond=C2=A0repair.=C2=A0Replaced it, in 1994, with a Walker uni=
t that is still on the car.This one is too quiet to my liking (i.e. you hea=
r the valve train too prominent...)=C2=A0Anyone know where to find the abov=
e mentioned Janspeed or Zakspeed?=C2=A0Bert=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Gesendet:=C2=
=A0Freitag, 31. Juli 2020 um 02:35 Uhr
Von:=C2=A0"dave" <dave@ranteer.com>
An:=C2=A0mgs@autox.team.net
Betreff:=C2=A0Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Exhaust Sound
About 2 or maybe even 3=C2=A0 years ago I bought a stainless steel exhaust =
for my MGA from Moss since they were on sale.
=C2=A0

It still looks absolutely brand new.=C2=A0 Of course, its also still in the=
 box.


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=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;"=
><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I just returned from the muf=
fler shop to see about replacing the "cherry bomb" muffler with something a=
 little more quiet and deep.&nbsp; When it was put up on the lift the singl=
e muffler looked like a stock MG muffler painted red, not a typical cherry =
bomb glass pack muffler.&nbsp; APT in Riverside (10 minutes from my house) =
sells a Maniflow performance system for $350.&nbsp; I'm not sure I would be=
 any better off sound wise with it.&nbsp; Now I am thinking of just buying =
a stock resonator and muffler from Moss and having the muffler shop put the=
m in and be done with it.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Mike MacLean</div><div dir=3D"l=
tr" data-setdir=3D"false">1969 MGB GT <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdi=
r=3D"false">1960 Bugeye</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">1956 BN=
2 Lemans<br></div><div><br></div>
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ans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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                <div>
                    On Friday, July 31, 2020, 9:44:48 AM PDT, Max Heim &lt;=
mvheim@sonic.net&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"yiv9016848589"><div>Ah, you see, that=E2=80=
=99s the case for the exhaust system as an expendable maintenance item =E2=
=80=94 its location makes it vulnerable to road hazards. The fact that it w=
ill last 100 years does=E2=80=99t help if you wipe it out on a speed bump i=
n three years.<div class=3D"yiv9016848589"><br class=3D"yiv9016848589" clea=
r=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv9016848589">I think the comment that stai=
nless steel has a harsher sound than mild steel is also relevant.<br class=
=3D"yiv9016848589" clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv9016848589"><br class=3D=
"yiv9016848589" clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv9016848589">But mainl=
y, I=E2=80=99m too cheap to spend the money on something that isn=E2=80=99t=
 an appearance or a performance item. In fact, the exhaust system on my car=
 right now is a freebie cast-off from a local acquaintance who was =E2=80=
=9Cupgrading=E2=80=9D. The local exhaust shop welded up a few holes and put=
 in a new muffler for less than $100. In service since the early 90s.</div>=
<div class=3D"yiv9016848589"><br class=3D"yiv9016848589" clear=3D"none"></d=
iv><div class=3D"yiv9016848589"><br class=3D"yiv9016848589" clear=3D"none">=
<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">
<div class=3D"yiv9016848589" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);letter-spacing:nor=
mal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px=
;word-wrap:break-word;"><div class=3D"yiv9016848589" style=3D"color:rgb(0, =
0, 0);letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space=
:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word;"><div class=3D"yiv9016848589=
" style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:13px;">--</div><div class=3D"yiv9016848589"=
 style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:13px;min-height:16px;">Max Heim</div><div cl=
ass=3D"yiv9016848589" style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:13px;">'66 MGB</div></d=
iv></div>
</div>

<div><br class=3D"yiv9016848589" clear=3D"none"><blockquote class=3D"yiv901=
6848589" type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"yiv9016848589yqt1541490672" id=3D"yiv9=
016848589yqtfd08663"><div class=3D"yiv9016848589">On Jul 31, 2020, at 12:24=
 AM, Bert Palte &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv90168485=
89" ymailto=3D"mailto:palte@gmx.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:palte=
@gmx.net">palte@gmx.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"yiv9016848589Apple=
-interchange-newline" clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv9016848589"><div clas=
s=3D"yiv9016848589"><div class=3D"yiv9016848589" style=3D"font-family:Verda=
na;font-size:12.0px;"><div class=3D"yiv9016848589">When I bought my car in =
1989, it came with an aftermarket exhaust system. I think the name,&nbsp;</=
div>

<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">pressed into the muffler, was Zakspeed or Jans=
peed or something.</div>

<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">I liked the sound (music).</div>

<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">&nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">However, after hitting a road bump, it was bey=
ond&nbsp;repair.</div>

<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">&nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">
<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">Replaced it, in 1994, with a Walker unit that =
is still on the car.</div>

<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">This one is too quiet to my liking (i.e. you h=
ear the valve train too prominent...)</div>

<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">&nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">Anyone know where to find the above mentioned =
Janspeed or Zakspeed?</div>

<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">&nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">Bert</div>

<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">&nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">&nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">&nbsp;
<div class=3D"yiv9016848589" style=3D"margin:10px 5px 5px 10px;padding:10px=
 0 10px 10px;border-left:2px solid #C3D9E5;word-wrap:break-word;">
<div class=3D"yiv9016848589" style=3D"margin:0 0 10px 0;"><b class=3D"yiv90=
16848589">Gesendet:</b>&nbsp;Freitag, 31. Juli 2020 um 02:35 Uhr<br class=
=3D"yiv9016848589" clear=3D"none">
<b class=3D"yiv9016848589">Von:</b>&nbsp;"dave" &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" sha=
pe=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv9016848589" ymailto=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com"; tar=
get=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com";>dave@ranteer.com</a>&gt;<br=
 class=3D"yiv9016848589" clear=3D"none">
<b class=3D"yiv9016848589">An:</b>&nbsp;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" =
class=3D"yiv9016848589" ymailto=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_bl=
ank" href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";>mgs@autox.team.net</a><br class=3D"=
yiv9016848589" clear=3D"none">
<b class=3D"yiv9016848589">Betreff:</b>&nbsp;Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Exhaust Sound<=
/div>

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<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">
<div class=3D"yiv9016848589WordSection1"><p class=3D"yiv9016848589MsoNormal=
">About 2 or maybe even 3&nbsp; years ago I bought a stainless steel exhaus=
t for my MGA from Moss since they were on sale.</p><div class=3D"yiv9016848=
589">&nbsp;<br class=3D"yiv9016848589webkit-block-placeholder" clear=3D"non=
e"></div><p class=3D"yiv9016848589MsoNormal">It still looks absolutely bran=
d new.&nbsp; Of course, its also still in the box.</p>

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div><div class=3D"yiv9016848589yqt1541490672" id=3D"yiv9016848589yqtfd86026=
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