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Re: AirComp Qs

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Subject: Re: AirComp Qs
From: Douglas Shook <shook@usc.edu>
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 13:48:05 -0700
Rex Burkheimer wrote:

> I use a Craftsman PRofessional 6-hp oilless. The compressor fastens directly
> to the tank, so I don't see any way to insert a cooling coil between them.
> I want to separate it and trap it before it gets to the supply hose.
>    I've been eyeing Air-conditioning condensers from cars for this purpose.
> Why couldn't I just run a short line from the normal compressor outlet at
> the tank,  adapt it to the SAE fittings of a 2' x 3' approx condenser coil,
> then adapt a trap and drain at the outlet, then a coupler for the working
> hose?  Any reason that wouldn't work?  I realize that some condensers would
> be restrictive, but I have seen some with fairly good-sized tubes. For that
> matter, I could use several in parallel.
>

Yes,  if your pump bolts directly to your tank, then it would not be practicalto
use the setup I described.  You could put a condenser/radiator at the tank
outlet, but air leaving the tank will be much, much cooler than the air leaving
the pump, so the decreased thermal gradient will not be nearly as effective
there.

The warmer your tank becomes, the more the water vapor will simply pass on
through and out to your lines.  You might need a rather large reservoir with
your condenser coil to keep it from filling up with water and being pushed on
down the line anyway.

What probably would make sense with your configuration is simply to use a
longish run of large diameter (3/4" +) copper or steel pipe to cool and condense

the hot moist air before it gets to your water trap/separator. If you have a
slight
upward run on the piping, the condensed water would run back into the tank
for draining, instead of out toward you hoses/tools.

The larger the diameter of pipe, the slower the air will pass through (the air
will
"spend more time" in the pipe), and the cooler it will become.

The nice thing about putting a radiator inline between the pump and tank is
that the air there is at maximum temperature -- if we pull the heat out there,
then the water will condense in that big, fat, cold tank before heading out into

lines.  The tank can hold a good quantity of water before it becomes a draining
issue.

With your arrangement, though, I think I would just use the longest run of the
largest diameter copper or steel pipe practical between the tank outlet and your

separator.

If you haven't looked at it yet, you might want to check out the TIP air piping
page:

http://www.tiptools.com/tech_line/compressors/air_consumption.html

and look at point 5 about runing air lines.

It is very helpful to have risers in your piping to help separate the water from

the air (the water does not want to defy gravity) and then slope the pipe to
drain the water away.

doug


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