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Re: [Shop-talk] FW: Was water alarm, now sump pump. MORE

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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] FW: Was water alarm, now sump pump. MORE
From: Pat Horne <pat@hornesystemstx.com>
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2010 22:44:37 -0600
Marty,

You could always put in an automatic vent at the top of the pipe outside 
the wall. That would allow any water in the pipe between the vent and 
the ditch that is not below the outlet end of the pipe to drain out.  
Another thing you could do is put a check valve in line with the pipe to 
keep the water from backing up into the pump.

I was talking to our propane delivery guy yesterday and he told me that 
about once a year, when we get our first hard freeze, that the hose 
couplings on their delivery trucks leak really badly because the hoses 
shrink, making the clamps loose. Is it possible that you clamps are 
loosening up, allowing the hoses to blow off?

Thusly spake marty sukey, On 12/4/2010 5:20 PM:
> Well that was weird, I did not think I hit the send button. Please continue
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> Marty
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> To: shop-talk@autox.team.net
> Subject: Was water alarm, now sump pump.
> Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 18:03:50 -0500
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> I posted something last week asking about water alarms now let me pester the
> group with a sump pump question.  History.. The house is 11 years old with a
> sump pump in the basement. The pump discharges up and through the basement
> wall at a height of about 6 or 7 feet from the bottom of the pump crock. Then
> goes out to a ditch at the road. Pipe is 1-1/2 inch PVC. Total run of pipe is
> around 240 foot. The drop from where it leaves the house to where it
> discharges into the ditch is about 2 foot. The original pump took a dump about
> 3 years after we moved in naturally when we weren't home. The first pump was
> all hard plumbed in.   When I replace the pump I used some rubber couplings,
> the kind with a couple of hose clamps on the ends to tie things together.  Had
> an issue a while ago where one of the couplings separated from the pipe and
> the gusher flooded part of the basement. I figured I had not tightened the
> clamps sufficiently. Tightened everything up and checked them every couple of
> months to make sure they were tight. All was well until last week when one
> blew apart again. Water in the basement AGAIN.  So OK I'm figuring I should
> not have used the rubber couplings. After putting the carpet back down today I
> move over the pump to take those rubber couplings out and hard plumb things
> back together.
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> As I took apart the discharge pipe the water gushed back into the crock with a
> lot of force. So much came out I measured it as I scooped it out in order to
> empty the crock so I could work on the pipe.  24 gallons of water came out.
> According to my calculations (might be wrong) 240 foot of 1-1/2 inch pipe
> would hold about 24 gallons of water. This is puzzling to me. Observations.
> When the pump turns on the water flows freely out the end at the ditch. The
> pipe where it goes into the ditch is well above the water level in the ditch.
> The water that flowed back through the pipe back into the crock when I
> separated the pipe was clear.  I could understand there being water in the
> vertical line where it goes up and out the wall. I would think all the rest of
> the water would drain out due to the slope to the ditch. If there was a hole
> in the line some place I would think some muddy water would be flowing back
> into the crock.  What could cause this or is it normal and I am worrying over
> nothing.
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> Thanks,
> Marty
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