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To: Benjamin Zwissler <bjzwissler@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] tire balancing
From: Ian McFetridge via Shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 17:56:53 -0500
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Got me at a loss, unless it is done on the car and they are also balancing
the rotating assembly, do front/rear could matter.  It would be telling to
report what he actually does.

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 5:53 PM Benjamin Zwissler via Shop-talk <
shop-talk@autox.team.net> wrote:

> Well, I vote he has no clue what he's talking about.  What I learned was
> that static and spin balancing were not the same thing.  Static was done
> with a bubble balance without spinning.  Spinning meant spinning.  There
> was spinning on the car and spinning off the car, but I don't think anyone
> does it on the car anymore.
>
> I don't know why they would balance front and back differently, seems like
> balanced is balanced regardless of front or rear.
>
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 5:32 PM Steven Trovato via Shop-talk <
> shop-talk@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Two years ago, I purchased a set of Michelin tires for my Ford
>> Expedition at BJs.  It was not a great experience, and I don't think
>> I'd do it again.  The tires do come with a road hazard warranty,
>> though, and free flat repair.  I got a puncture in the right rear
>> yesterday, so I ventured down to BJs once again.  The guy there asked
>> me if it was a front or rear tire.  He said they balance them
>> differently.  He said it was "statically balanced" but on a machine
>> that spins it and uses lasers.  I don't know what he is talking
>> about.  I told him it is a rear tire, but that shouldn't matter,
>> because it will be a front tire when I rotate them.  He told me I
>> shouldn't do that.  I have to bring the vehicle to them to rotate and
>> re-balance.  None of this makes any sense to me.  Have things changed
>> drastically or is this guy nuts?  I should note that all this stuff
>> is free when you buy the tires there, so I don't really see any
>> financial motive for them to want to do this.
>>
>> -Steve
>>
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<div><div dir=3D"auto">Got me at a loss, unless it is done on the car and t=
hey are also balancing the rotating assembly, do front/rear could matter.=
=C2=A0 It would be telling to report what he actually does.</div></div><div=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mo=
n, Nov 4, 2019 at 5:53 PM Benjamin Zwissler via Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:shop-talk@autox.team.net">shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bo=
rder-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-co=
lor:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir=3D"auto">Well, I vote he has no clue what he=
&#39;s talking about.=C2=A0 What I learned was that static and spin balanci=
ng were not the same thing.=C2=A0 Static was done with a bubble balance wit=
hout spinning.=C2=A0 Spinning meant spinning.=C2=A0 There was spinning on t=
he car and spinning off the car, but I don&#39;t think anyone does it on th=
e car anymore.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I don&#39;t kno=
w why they would balance front and back differently, seems like balanced is=
 balanced regardless of front or rear.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote"></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr=
">On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 5:32 PM Steven Trovato via Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">shop-=
talk@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;borde=
r-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color=
:rgb(204,204,204)"></blockquote></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width=
:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204=
,204)">Two years ago, I purchased a set of Michelin tires for my Ford <br>
Expedition at BJs.=C2=A0 It was not a great experience, and I don&#39;t thi=
nk <br>
I&#39;d do it again.=C2=A0 The tires do come with a road hazard warranty, <=
br>
though, and free flat repair.=C2=A0 I got a puncture in the right rear <br>
yesterday, so I ventured down to BJs once again.=C2=A0 The guy there asked =
<br>
me if it was a front or rear tire.=C2=A0 He said they balance them <br>
differently.=C2=A0 He said it was &quot;statically balanced&quot; but on a =
machine <br>
that spins it and uses lasers.=C2=A0 I don&#39;t know what he is talking <b=
r>
about.=C2=A0 I told him it is a rear tire, but that shouldn&#39;t matter, <=
br>
because it will be a front tire when I rotate them.=C2=A0 He told me I <br>
shouldn&#39;t do that.=C2=A0 I have to bring the vehicle to them to rotate =
and <br>
re-balance.=C2=A0 None of this makes any sense to me.=C2=A0 Have things cha=
nged <br>
drastically or is this guy nuts?=C2=A0 I should note that all this stuff <b=
r>
is free when you buy the tires there, so I don&#39;t really see any <br>
financial motive for them to want to do this.<br>
<br>
-Steve<br>
<br>
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