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Re: [Shop-talk] Leaf blower issues...need the elders' advice

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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Leaf blower issues...need the elders' advice
From: Peter Murray <peterwmurray@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 21:43:58 -0600
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I had a Troy-Bilt 4-cycle "engine on a stick" that came with a blower and
weed whacker attachments. I liked the concept enough that I purchased the
rototiller and pole saw attachments.

Flash forward 4 years or so, and I had similar issues with the engine, and
eventually took it to a small engine shop that disassembled it, declared it
"partially seized" and gave it back to me as a pile of parts.

Needless to say, I was underwhelmed both by their attitude about it and by
the lack of longevity with the device, especially given the investment in
attachments.

I ended up buying a Stihl "engine on a stick", and was quite happy to
discover that it was perfectly compatible with the Troy-Bilt attachments.
It is a two-stroke, but it uses a very high fuel:oil ratio, so it isn't too
bad on the stink-factor.

That made me happy enough that I ended up buying a Stihl MS250 chainsaw.
Unfortunately, it leaks bar oil like a sieve, so I need to take it back to
Ace Hardware and have them take care of that.

As far as battery-powered blowers are concerned, I think the 40V+ blowers
will give you plenty of volume and reasonable longevity. Get a second
battery if you're concerned it won't last long enough. I wouldn't advise it
for clearing a 0.5 acre lawn with lots of trees, but the Ryobi 40V my
parents have does quite well. My 18V Ryobi ONE+ blower doesn't have nearly
the output nor the longevity - but it only came with a 2Ah battery. The 4Ah
battery would certainly help it run longer, but it still lacks the oomph
for heavier amounts of leaves.

-Peter


On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 2:00 PM Jimmie Mayfield <
mayfield+shoptalk@sackheads.org> wrote:

> You have to look at the battery size. You can't simply compare amp-hours
> because, unlike most power tools where 12V and 18V are pretty much
> standard across different manufacturers, outdoor power equipment uses a
> variety of voltages...18V, 36V, 40V, 56V, 60V, 80V...and I think there
> are a few 120V designs out there now.  Instead, you can compare
> Watt-hours which is the amount of energy the battery contains.
>
> For example, my 5Ah 56V Ego batteries contain about 280 Watt-hours of
> energy, a 12Ah 18V Milwaukee battery contains 216 Watt-hours, etc.
>
> Runtime also depends on how hard you drive the motor.  If you're running
> them at wide-open, they're not going to last very long because their
> brushless motors can draw a lot of power.  I've read that Ego's motors
> are rated north of 2000 Watts.  So based on those numbers, I could
> probably expect less than 10 minutes at wide open ~600 cfm from the
> blower.  The reality, though, I rarely find that I need to run it wide
> open. Leaves a foot-deep would  would probably be a problem though,
> especially if they're wet.
>
> Here's an alternate solution that I use...even on my lawn:  use a
> pressure washer with the fan spray nozzle.   I find that it works far
> better and faster than any leaf blower that I've ever used, gas or
> otherwise.  It's also effective for slowing traffic on my street as
> drivers do a double-take to watch the guy pressure-washing his lawn.
>
>
> On 2020-10-24 11:46, Scott Hall wrote:
> > What's the endurance of those battery blowers? The driveway is
> > probably 400 feet all in, plus maybe 1000 sq. ft. of parking pad in
> > front of the garage.
> >
> > In the summers it's just grass clippings after mowing.  Right now, it
> > can get at least a foot deep in leaves.
> >
> > (The lot is oddly-shaped and they put the house towards the back of it.)
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I had a Troy-Bilt 4-cycle &quot;engine on a stick&quot; th=
at came with a blower and weed whacker attachments. I liked the concept eno=
ugh that I purchased the rototiller and pole saw attachments.<div><br></div=
><div>Flash forward 4 years or so, and I had similar issues with the engine=
, and eventually took it to a small engine shop that disassembled it, decla=
red it &quot;partially seized&quot; and gave it back to me as a pile of par=
ts.</div><div><br></div><div>Needless to say, I was underwhelmed both by th=
eir attitude about it and by the lack of longevity with the device, especia=
lly given the investment in attachments.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>I e=
nded up buying a Stihl &quot;engine on a stick&quot;, and was quite happy t=
o discover that it was perfectly compatible with the Troy-Bilt attachments.=
 It is a two-stroke, but it uses a very high fuel:oil ratio, so it isn&#39;=
t too bad on the stink-factor.</div><div><br></div><div>That made me happy =
enough that I ended up buying a Stihl MS250 chainsaw. Unfortunately, it lea=
ks bar oil like a sieve, so I need to take it back to Ace Hardware and have=
 them take care of that.</div><div><br></div><div>As far as battery-powered=
 blowers are concerned, I think the 40V+ blowers will give you plenty of vo=
lume and reasonable longevity. Get a second battery if you&#39;re concerned=
 it won&#39;t last long enough. I wouldn&#39;t advise it for clearing a 0.5=
 acre lawn with lots of trees, but the Ryobi 40V my parents have does quite=
 well. My 18V Ryobi ONE+ blower doesn&#39;t have nearly the output nor the =
longevity - but it only came with a 2Ah battery. The 4Ah battery would cert=
ainly help it run longer, but it still lacks the oomph for heavier amounts =
of leaves.</div><div><br></div><div>-Peter</div><div><br></div></div><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Oct =
24, 2020 at 2:00 PM Jimmie Mayfield &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mayfield%2Bshopta=
lk@sackheads.org">mayfield+shoptalk@sackheads.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l=
eft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">You have to look at the ba=
ttery size. You can&#39;t simply compare amp-hours <br>
because, unlike most power tools where 12V and 18V are pretty much <br>
standard across different manufacturers, outdoor power equipment uses a <br=
>
variety of voltages...18V, 36V, 40V, 56V, 60V, 80V...and I think there <br>
are a few 120V designs out there now.=C2=A0 Instead, you can compare <br>
Watt-hours which is the amount of energy the battery contains.<br>
<br>
For example, my 5Ah 56V Ego batteries contain about 280 Watt-hours of <br>
energy, a 12Ah 18V Milwaukee battery contains 216 Watt-hours, etc.<br>
<br>
Runtime also depends on how hard you drive the motor.=C2=A0 If you&#39;re r=
unning <br>
them at wide-open, they&#39;re not going to last very long because their <b=
r>
brushless motors can draw a lot of power.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve read that Ego&#39;=
s motors <br>
are rated north of 2000 Watts.=C2=A0 So based on those numbers, I could <br=
>
probably expect less than 10 minutes at wide open ~600 cfm from the <br>
blower.=C2=A0 The reality, though, I rarely find that I need to run it wide=
 <br>
open. Leaves a foot-deep would=C2=A0 would probably be a problem though, <b=
r>
especially if they&#39;re wet.<br>
<br>
Here&#39;s an alternate solution that I use...even on my lawn:=C2=A0 use a =
<br>
pressure washer with the fan spray nozzle.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I find that it works=
 far <br>
better and faster than any leaf blower that I&#39;ve ever used, gas or <br>
otherwise.=C2=A0 It&#39;s also effective for slowing traffic on my street a=
s <br>
drivers do a double-take to watch the guy pressure-washing his lawn.<br>
<br>
<br>
On 2020-10-24 11:46, Scott Hall wrote:<br>
&gt; What&#39;s the endurance of those battery blowers? The driveway is <br=
>
&gt; probably 400 feet all in, plus maybe 1000 sq. ft. of parking pad in <b=
r>
&gt; front of the garage.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; In the summers it&#39;s just grass clippings after mowing.=C2=A0 Right=
 now, it <br>
&gt; can get at least a foot deep in leaves.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; (The lot is oddly-shaped and they put the house towards the back of it=
.)<br>
<br>
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