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Re: [Shop-talk] Replacement florescent bulbs F42T6

To: Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Replacement florescent bulbs F42T6
From: Paul Parkanzky <parkanzky@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 10:56:55 -0500
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I know, but I always change all the lights in my properties to LEDs. So it
was coming down one way or another.

-Paul

On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 9:49 AM Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com> wrote:

> Paul, FYI, the problem with fluorescents not lighting in first try isn=E2=
=80=99t
> always a defective lamp or ballast. Sometimes the fixture isn=E2=80=99t g=
rounded,
> which can cause that problem.
>
>
> Peace,
> Pat
>
> Pat Horne
> We support Habitat for Humanity
>
>
> On Feb 6, 2021, at 8:44 AM, Paul Parkanzky <parkanzky@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> I've long since tossed the receipt and burned the box but I'm pretty sure
> these are them:
>
>
> https://www.lowes.com/pd/GE-Color-Correct-Technology-32-Watt-EQ-48-in-Day=
light-Linear-LED-Tube-Light-Bulb-2-Pack/5000197453
>
> The laundry/utility room in my cottage has a 4' fluorescent fixture and
> when I bought the place that light really struggled to come on (I'd have =
to
> toggle the switch five or six times to get it to work). I was at Lowe's
> with a buddy who was helping me with little projects around the place and=
 I
> had a new fixture on my shopping list. I was looking at a bunch and didn'=
t
> really like what they had. I told him I'd just buy something from Amazon
> when he pointed these out and I decided to give them a shot. I honestly
> thought I'd have to return them but it really was as easy as putting them
> in and they worked.
>
> I have a bunch of 4' fluorescent fixtures in my barn. I  bought a bunch o=
f
> 4' LED fixtures and I was in the process of swapping them out but now I'm
> definitely getting these bulbs where there are still existing fixtures. I
> feel stupid for all the fixtures I've thrown out over the past few years!
>
> -Paul
>
> On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 7:38 AM Scott Hall <scott.hall.personal@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Wait a minute--where'd you get those bulbs?
>>
>> I was literally about to send an email to the list about the failing
>> fixtures in my garage. New tubes didn't fix the problem, I was about to
>> replace the whole fixture.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 6, 2021, 6:20 AM Paul Parkanzky <parkanzky@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I bought LED tubes from Lowe=E2=80=99s to replace a couple of 4=E2=80=
=99 fluorescent
>>> lights in an old fixture in my cottage. I was skeptical and assumed I=
=E2=80=99d be
>>> taking them back and buying a new LED fixture but I put them in and the=
y
>>> worked great. These even had a switch on the end to choose the color
>>> temperature.
>>>
>>> No idea if that means Eric will have the same experience with these.
>>>
>>> -Paul
>>>
>>> On Feb 6, 2021, at 1:57 AM, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> =EF=BB=BF re: "They say this is a direct replacement"
>>>
>>> *Probably* not. NOTE: "Ballast Required!"  I re-wired some old-school
>>> fluorescent fixtures for LED 'tubes,' and had to replace the old ballas=
ts
>>> (purchased from Lowe's @ about $20ea). I hate ballasts, I hope the soli=
d
>>> state ones last longer than the analog. Sometimes, it's cheaper to buy =
a
>>> whole new fixture, with ballast, than buy a ballast and install it (if =
you
>>> count your time as a cost).
>>>
>>> TL;DR: I don't think analog ballasts work with LEDs, but I've not tried
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/5/2021 8:28 PM, Paul Parkanzky wrote:
>>>
>>> They say this is a direct replacement:
>>>
>>> NYLL - (Pack of 2) Single Pin FA8 Base 42 Inch Plug & Play LED Tube - T=
6
>>> LED Directly Relamp 25W 42" Fluorescent Bulb F42T6 (Without Rewiring or
>>> Modification) - Ballast Required! (Daylight (5000K))
>>> https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B088FSTPX4/ref=3Dcm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_J3=
J63CZD7TMEYDHGW8E8?psc=3D1
>>>
>>> $60 plus shipping a pair isn=E2=80=99t exactly cheap, but it feels chea=
p
>>> compared to $2400+...
>>>
>>> -Paul
>>>
>>> On Feb 5, 2021, at 11:15 PM, eric@megageek.com wrote:
>>>
>>> =EF=BB=BFOk, this is a literal 'shop talk' problem, as this bulb is in =
a
>>> showcase in my shop (antique and collectables shop)  8>)  I hope there =
are
>>> no problems posting it here.  But I know there is better knowledge here
>>> than me.
>>>
>>> So, this showcase has a florescent light bulb F42T6.  (42" and T6
>>> diameter.)  Which is a weird size length and very narrow, so I can't ge=
t a
>>> bigger diameter bulb.
>>>
>>> Now, this bulb seems to only be available by price gougers, (Chosen
>>> Supply has them for a mere $2,443.92.)
>>>
>>> Since this is in a active store and I can't easily remove the display
>>> case to modify it to fit something else, is there any other alternative=
 for
>>> me?
>>>
>>> What I was thinking is they may be a LED replacement bulb that will fit
>>> or something?  Anyone know of such a replacement?  Or a quick and easy =
drop
>>> in replacement mount?
>>>
>>> Also, I may be closing the store in the next 6 months, so I don't want
>>> to dump tons of cash into this.
>>>
>>> BTW, if any of you are in NJ and check it out and see something you lik=
e
>>> in there, call me (number is on the wall) and it's yours for free! (I n=
eed
>>> to move inventory!)
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I know, but I always change all the lights in my propertie=
s to LEDs. So it was coming down one way or=C2=A0another.<div><br></div><di=
v>-Paul</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
"gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 9:49 AM Pat Horne &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:patintexas@icloud.com">patintexas@icloud.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:=
1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Paul, FYI, t=
he problem with fluorescents not lighting in first try isn=E2=80=99t always=
 a defective lamp or ballast. Sometimes the fixture isn=E2=80=99t grounded,=
 which can cause that problem.=C2=A0<br><br><br>Peace,<div>Pat</div><div><b=
r><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne=C2=A0<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div=
><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Feb 6, 2021, at 8:44 AM, Paul=
 Parkanzky &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:parkanzky@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">par=
kanzky@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div=
 dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;ve long since tossed the receipt and burned the box but =
I&#39;m pretty sure these are them:<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://w=
ww.lowes.com/pd/GE-Color-Correct-Technology-32-Watt-EQ-48-in-Daylight-Linea=
r-LED-Tube-Light-Bulb-2-Pack/5000197453" target=3D"_blank">https://www.lowe=
s.com/pd/GE-Color-Correct-Technology-32-Watt-EQ-48-in-Daylight-Linear-LED-T=
ube-Light-Bulb-2-Pack/5000197453</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>The laund=
ry/utility room in my cottage has a 4&#39; fluorescent fixture and when I b=
ought the place that light really struggled to come on (I&#39;d have to tog=
gle the switch five or six times to get it to work). I was at Lowe&#39;s wi=
th a buddy who was helping me with little projects around the place and I h=
ad a new fixture on my shopping list. I was looking at a bunch and didn&#39=
;t really like what they had. I told him I&#39;d just buy something from Am=
azon when he pointed these out and I decided to give them a shot. I honestl=
y thought I&#39;d have to return them but it really was as easy as putting =
them in and they worked.</div><div><br></div><div>I have a bunch of 4&#39; =
fluorescent fixtures in my barn. I=C2=A0 bought a bunch of 4&#39; LED fixtu=
res and I was in the process of swapping them out but now I&#39;m definitel=
y getting these bulbs where there are still existing fixtures. I feel stupi=
d for all the fixtures I&#39;ve thrown out over the past few years!</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>-Paul</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 7:38 AM Scott Hall &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:scott.hall.personal@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">scott.h=
all.personal@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,2=
04);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Wait a minute--where&#39;d you get =
those bulbs?<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I was literally a=
bout to send an email to the list about the failing fixtures in my garage. =
New tubes didn&#39;t fix the=C2=A0problem, I was about to replace the whole=
 fixture.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Sc=
ott</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gma=
il_attr">On Sat, Feb 6, 2021, 6:20 AM Paul Parkanzky &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
parkanzky@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">parkanzky@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
r></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"=
>I bought LED tubes from Lowe=E2=80=99s to replace a couple of 4=E2=80=99 f=
luorescent lights in an old fixture in my cottage. I was skeptical and assu=
med I=E2=80=99d be taking them back and buying a new LED fixture but I put =
them in and they worked great. These even had a switch on the end to choose=
 the color temperature.<div><br></div><div>No idea if that means Eric will =
have the same experience with these.<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">-Paul</div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Feb 6, 2021, at 1:57 AM, Bob=
 Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer" tar=
get=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></di=
v><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
 =20
   =20
 =20
 =20
    re: &quot;They say this is a direct replacement&quot;<br>
    <br>
    <i>Probably</i> not. NOTE: &quot;Ballast Required!&quot;=C2=A0 I re-wir=
ed some
    old-school fluorescent fixtures for LED &#39;tubes,&#39; and had to rep=
lace
    the old ballasts (purchased from Lowe&#39;s @ about $20ea). I hate
    ballasts, I hope the solid state ones last longer than the analog.
    Sometimes, it&#39;s cheaper to buy a whole new fixture, with ballast,
    than buy a ballast and install it (if you count your time as a
    cost).<br>
    <br>
    TL;DR: I don&#39;t think analog ballasts work with LEDs, but I&#39;ve n=
ot
    tried it.<br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
    =C2=A0<br>
    <br>
    <div>On 2/5/2021 8:28 PM, Paul Parkanzky
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      They say this is a direct replacement:
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>NYLL - (Pack of 2) Single Pin FA8 Base 42 Inch Plug &amp;
        Play LED Tube - T6 LED Directly Relamp 25W 42&quot; Fluorescent Bul=
b
        F42T6 (Without Rewiring or Modification) - Ballast Required!
        (Daylight (5000K))
<a href=3D"https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B088FSTPX4/ref=3Dcm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_=
fabc_J3J63CZD7TMEYDHGW8E8?psc=3D1" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">htt=
ps://smile.amazon.com/dp/B088FSTPX4/ref=3Dcm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_J3J63CZD7=
TMEYDHGW8E8?psc=3D1</a></div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>$60 plus shipping a pair isn=E2=80=99t exactly cheap, but it fee=
ls
        cheap compared to $2400+...<br>
        <br>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">-Paul</div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
          <blockquote type=3D"cite">On Feb 5, 2021, at 11:15 PM,
            <a href=3D"mailto:eric@megageek.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">eric@megageek.com</a> wrote:<br>
            <br>
          </blockquote>
        </div>
        <blockquote type=3D"cite">
          <div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Ok=
, this is a
              literal &#39;shop talk&#39; problem,
              as this bulb is in a showcase in my shop (antique and
              collectables shop)
              =C2=A08&gt;) =C2=A0I hope there are no problems posting it he=
re.
              =C2=A0But
              I know there is better knowledge here than me.</font>
            <br>
            <br>
            <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">So, this showcase has a
              florescent light
              bulb F42T6. =C2=A0(42&quot; and T6 diameter.) =C2=A0Which is =
a weird size
              length and very narrow, so I can&#39;t get a bigger diameter
              bulb.</font>
            <br>
            <br>
            <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Now, this bulb seems to
              only be available
              by price gougers, (Chosen Supply has them for a mere
              $2,443.92.) =C2=A0</font>
            <br>
            <br>
            <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Since this is in a active
              store and
              I can&#39;t easily remove the display case to modify it to fi=
t
              something else,
              is there any other alternative for me?</font>
            <br>
            <br>
            <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">What I was thinking is the=
y
              may be a
              LED replacement bulb that will fit or something?=C2=A0 Anyone
              know of such
              a replacement?=C2=A0 Or a quick and easy drop in replacement
              mount?</font>
            <br>
            <br>
            <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Also, I may be closing the
              store in
              the next 6 months, so I don&#39;t want to dump tons of cash
              into this.</font>
            <br>
            <br>
            <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">BTW, if any of you are in
              NJ and check
              it out and see something you like in there, call me
              (number is on the wall)
              and it&#39;s yours for free! (I need to move inventory!)</fon=
t>
            <br>
            <br>
            <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Thanks.</font>
            <br>
            <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
              <br>
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              being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your
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              Waldo Emerson <br>
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