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To: "shop-talk" <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Shop-talk] electrical problems with truck
From: "john niolon" <jniolon@att.net>
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 09:33:50 -0500
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Took the truck (53 ford f-100) out for a drive yesterday=E2=80=A6first=
 time since the=20
Grand Nationals (I=E2=80=99ve been busy) Ran great for about 30 minute=
s with a couple=20
of stops during the ride=E2=80=A6 each time it started right and showe=
d no problems.=20
Electric fan and a/c running the whole time As I pulled out of one bus=
iness and=20
headed home the truck stumbled and died..almost like it was out of gas=
=E2=80=A6 ( had=20
over a half a tank) I pulled into a business and tried to start it and=
 all I=20
got was a =E2=80=98click=E2=80=9D. Dash Volt meter read about 11 volts=
 with switch on and=20
dropped to zero when hitting the starter. Waited about 10 minutes and =
it=20
started right up=E2=80=A6 got it home, shut it off and same thing =E2=80=
=9Cclick=E2=80=9D.

Battery has been on a battery tender full time since May and showed 13=
=2E7 volts=20
on VOM connected to the battery before the ride.

Battery is 2 years old Everstart Maxx27 800 CCA =E2=80=A6 =20

Davis DUI ignition (which could have quit when battery voltage got low=
)

All cables are new with 1/0 welding cable for starting circuit and bat=
tery=20
ground to frame
engine to frame, frame to cab and frame to bed are all #4 wire to bare=
 metal=20
connection points with dialectic grease.

At first glance...when running,  the volt meter on dash shows over 13 =
volts so=20
I think alternator is good=20

did a load test with a H.F. (100 amp) load tester showed battery dropp=
ing to 10=20
volts during 10 second load... recovered to 12.=20

Put truck up on stands and dropped battery (under cab)  checked all ca=
bles and=20
connections from battery to starter including solenoid and ground conn=
ections.
all tight, no corrosion on terminals and  cells full.  this truck fini=
shed last=20
year and everything is new.  Starter solenoid is a Cole-Hersee 200 amp=
=20
continuous draw solenoid.

Starter is new last year and 6-7 inches away and below headers so heat=
 soak=20
isn't causing the problem

Set it back down and charged it for 30 minutes at 10 amps... battery s=
howed 12.9 volts..  started ok and put meter on alternator
terminals... alternator putting out 14.5 - 14.8 volts...  varies a lit=
tle with engine speed.... so alternator is good I think.

 I did a load test again.,.. idle voltage reading 12.9 volts on two di=
fferent fluke meters... and during the load test it dropped to 12.3 th=
en recovered to 12.7...so I'm=20
assuming the battery is good, it was just low before the first load te=
st.

here's an odd thing.. I have a 12 volt terminal on the right frame rai=
l that powers the elec radiator fan, tilt hood motors and trinary swit=
ch

with the a/c on, headlights on and elec radiator fan running (as much =
load as I can put on it)... the alternator o/p at 14.5 volts, the volt=
age at the terminal on rail reads 11.5 volts.  The terminal is 4'=20
from battery and fed with #4 stranded wire.

that's about all the detail I can give you... any ideas why it stalled=
 and quit..???   and why the terminal point only reads 11.5 versus the=
 14.5 at the alternator.

I'm=20
at the wall

thanks
john

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yle=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, geneva, lucida, "lucida =
grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACI=
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al'>All cables are new with 1/0 welding cable for starting circuit and=
 battery ground to frame</SPAN></DIV>
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-color: initial'>engine to frame, frame to cab and frame to bed are al=
l #4 wire to bare metal connection points with dialectic grease.</SPAN=
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geneva, lucida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; WHITE-S=
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0; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-STYLE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; LE=
TTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT:=
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it-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-de=
coration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial'><SPAN style=3D=
'FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, geneva, lucida, "lucida grande=
", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING: 0p=
x; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; FONT-WEIGHT: 400; COLOR: rgb(34,=
34,34); FONT-STYLE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; DISPLAY: inline !im=
portant; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); T=
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rmal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-thickness: initi=
al; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial'>At=
 first glance...when running, &nbsp;the volt meter on dash shows over =
13 volts so I think alternator is good </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, geneva, luc=
ida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; WHITE-SPACE: norma=
l; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; FONT-WEIGHT: =
400; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-STYLE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; =
DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; fo=
nt-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decorati=
on-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration=
-color: initial'></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, geneva, luc=
ida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; WHITE-SPACE: norma=
l; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; FONT-WEIGHT: =
400; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-STYLE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; =
DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; fo=
nt-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decorati=
on-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration=
-color: initial'><SPAN style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana,=
 geneva, lucida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; WHITE-=
SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; F=
ONT-WEIGHT: 400; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-STYLE: normal; ORPHANS: 2;=
 WIDOWS: 2; DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGR=
OUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures=
: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; t=
ext-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; tex=
t-decoration-color: initial'>did a load test with a H.F. (100 amp)&nbs=
p;load tester showed battery dropping to 10 volts during 10 second loa=
d... recovered to 12.&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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400; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-STYLE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; =
DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; fo=
nt-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decorati=
on-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration=
-color: initial'><SPAN style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana,=
 geneva, lucida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; WHITE-=
SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; F=
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 WIDOWS: 2; DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGR=
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: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; t=
ext-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; tex=
t-decoration-color: initial'></SPAN></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, geneva, luc=
ida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; WHITE-SPACE: norma=
l; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; FONT-WEIGHT: =
400; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-STYLE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; =
DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; fo=
nt-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decorati=
on-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration=
-color: initial'><SPAN style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana,=
 geneva, lucida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; WHITE-=
SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; F=
ONT-WEIGHT: 400; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-STYLE: normal; ORPHANS: 2;=
 WIDOWS: 2; DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGR=
OUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures=
: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; t=
ext-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; tex=
t-decoration-color: initial'></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 1=
3px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, geneva, lucida, "lucida grande", arial, hel=
vetica, sans-serif; WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANS=
FORM: none; FLOAT: none; FONT-WEIGHT: 400; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-=
STYLE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; DISPLAY: inline !important; LETT=
ER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0=
px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; -webkit=
-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-deco=
ration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial'>Put truck up on=
 stands and dropped battery (under cab)&nbsp; checked all cables and c=
onnections&nbsp;from battery to starter including solenoid and ground =
connections.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, geneva, luc=
ida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; WHITE-SPACE: norma=
l; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; FONT-WEIGHT: =
400; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-STYLE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; =
DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; fo=
nt-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decorati=
on-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration=
-color: initial'>all tight, no corrosion on terminals and&nbsp; </SPAN=
><SPAN style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, geneva, lucida,=
 "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; WHITE-SPACE: normal; W=
ORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; FONT-WEIGHT: 400;=
 COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-STYLE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; DISP=
LAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(=
255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-v=
ariant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-t=
hickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-col=
or: initial'>cells full.&nbsp; this truck finished last year and every=
thing is new.&nbsp; Starter solenoid is a&nbsp;Cole-Hersee 200 amp con=
tinuous draw solenoid.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, geneva, luc=
ida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; WHITE-SPACE: norma=
l; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; FONT-WEIGHT: =
400; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-STYLE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; =
DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; fo=
nt-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decorati=
on-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration=
-color: initial'></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, geneva, luc=
ida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; WHITE-SPACE: norma=
l; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; FONT-WEIGHT: =
400; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-STYLE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; =
DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; fo=
nt-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decorati=
on-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration=
-color: initial'>Starter is new last year and 6-7 inches away and belo=
w headers so heat soak isn't causing the problem</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, geneva, luc=
ida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; WHITE-SPACE: norma=
l; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; FONT-WEIGHT: =
400; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-STYLE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; =
DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; fo=
nt-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decorati=
on-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration=
-color: initial'></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, geneva, luc=
ida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; WHITE-SPACE: norma=
l; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; FONT-WEIGHT: =
400; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-STYLE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; =
DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; fo=
nt-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decorati=
on-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration=
-color: initial'>Set it back down and charged it for 30 minutes at 10 =
amps... battery showed 12.9 volts..&nbsp; started ok and put meter on =
alternator</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, geneva, luc=
ida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; WHITE-SPACE: norma=
l; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; FONT-WEIGHT: =
400; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-STYLE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; =
DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; fo=
nt-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decorati=
on-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration=
-color: initial'>terminals... alternator putting out 14.5 - 14.8 volts=
=2E..&nbsp; varies a&nbsp;little with engine speed....&nbsp;so alterna=
tor is good I think.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, geneva, luc=
ida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; WHITE-SPACE: norma=
l; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; FONT-WEIGHT: =
400; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-STYLE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; =
DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; fo=
nt-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decorati=
on-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration=
-color: initial'></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, geneva, luc=
ida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; WHITE-SPACE: norma=
l; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; FONT-WEIGHT: =
400; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-STYLE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; =
DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; fo=
nt-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decorati=
on-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration=
-color: initial'>
<DIV><SPAN style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, geneva, luc=
ida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; WHITE-SPACE: norma=
l; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; FONT-WEIGHT: =
400; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-STYLE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; =
DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; fo=
nt-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decorati=
on-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration=
-color: initial'><SPAN style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana,=
 geneva, lucida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; WHITE-=
SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; F=
ONT-WEIGHT: 400; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-STYLE: normal; ORPHANS: 2;=
 WIDOWS: 2; DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGR=
OUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures=
: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; t=
ext-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; tex=
t-decoration-color: initial'><SPAN>&nbsp;</SPAN>I did a load test agai=
n.,.. idle voltage reading 12.9 volts on two different fluke&nbsp;mete=
rs... and during the load test it dropped to 12.3 then recovered to 12=
=2E7...so I'm assuming the battery is good, it was just low before the=
 first load test.</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, geneva, luc=
ida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; WHITE-SPACE: norma=
l; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; FONT-WEIGHT: =
400; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-STYLE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; =
DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; fo=
nt-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decorati=
on-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration=
-color: initial'><SPAN style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana,=
 geneva, lucida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; WHITE-=
SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; F=
ONT-WEIGHT: 400; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-STYLE: normal; ORPHANS: 2;=
 WIDOWS: 2; DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGR=
OUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures=
: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; t=
ext-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; tex=
t-decoration-color: initial'></SPAN></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, geneva, luc=
ida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; WHITE-SPACE: norma=
l; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; FONT-WEIGHT: =
400; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-STYLE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; =
DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; fo=
nt-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decorati=
on-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration=
-color: initial'>here's an odd thing.. I have a 12 volt terminal on th=
e right frame rail that powers the elec radiator fan, tilt hood motors=
 and trinary switch</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, geneva, luc=
ida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; WHITE-SPACE: norma=
l; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; FONT-WEIGHT: =
400; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-STYLE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; =
DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; fo=
nt-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decorati=
on-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration=
-color: initial'></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, geneva, luc=
ida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; WHITE-SPACE: norma=
l; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; FONT-WEIGHT: =
400; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-STYLE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; =
DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; fo=
nt-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decorati=
on-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration=
-color: initial'>with the a/c on, headlights on and elec&nbsp;radiator=
 fan running (as much load as I can put on it)...&nbsp;the alternator =
o/p at 14.5 volts, the voltage at the terminal on rail reads 11.5 volt=
s.&nbsp; The terminal is 4' from battery and fed with #4 stranded wire=
=2E</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, geneva, luc=
ida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; WHITE-SPACE: norma=
l; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; FONT-WEIGHT: =
400; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-STYLE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; =
DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; fo=
nt-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decorati=
on-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration=
-color: initial'></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, geneva, luc=
ida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; WHITE-SPACE: norma=
l; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; FONT-WEIGHT: =
400; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-STYLE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; =
DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; fo=
nt-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decorati=
on-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration=
-color: initial'>that's about all the detail I can give you... any ide=
as why it stalled and quit..???&nbsp;&nbsp; and why the terminal point=
 only reads 11.5 versus the 14.5 at the alternator.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, geneva, luc=
ida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; WHITE-SPACE: norma=
l; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; FONT-WEIGHT: =
400; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-STYLE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; =
DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; fo=
nt-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decorati=
on-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration=
-color: initial'></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, geneva, luc=
ida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; WHITE-SPACE: norma=
l; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; FONT-WEIGHT: =
400; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-STYLE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; =
DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; fo=
nt-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decorati=
on-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration=
-color: initial'>I'm at the wall</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, geneva, luc=
ida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; WHITE-SPACE: norma=
l; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; FONT-WEIGHT: =
400; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-STYLE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; =
DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; fo=
nt-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decorati=
on-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration=
-color: initial'></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, geneva, luc=
ida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; WHITE-SPACE: norma=
l; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; FONT-WEIGHT: =
400; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-STYLE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; =
DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; fo=
nt-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decorati=
on-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration=
-color: initial'>thanks</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, geneva, luc=
ida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; WHITE-SPACE: norma=
l; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FLOAT: none; FONT-WEIGHT: =
400; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-STYLE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WIDOWS: 2; =
DISPLAY: inline !important; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; fo=
nt-variant-caps: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decorati=
on-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration=
-color: initial'>john</SPAN></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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