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Re: [Shop-talk] tankless/instant water heater

To: David Scheidt <dmscheidt@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] tankless/instant water heater
From: Jim Franklin <jamesf@groupwbench.org>
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 19:04:30 -0500
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> On Jan 24, 2022, at 5:39 PM, David Scheidt <dmscheidt@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 4:27 PM john niolon <jniolon@att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> tired of just cold (really cold) water in the shop sink./..thinking about a 
>> tankless/instant water heater.  Would like to stay
>> with 120v if possible to avoid additional wiring (me crawling around in 
>> attic dragging wire with bad knees and hips.  I have an available plug
>> within 6 ' of sink
>> 
>> pros and cons ? recommendations.
>> This will strictly be a hand washing sink to be used after putting up my 
>> tools  (shop content)
>> 
> 
> an 1800W tankless water heater (the biggest you can plug into 120V
> outlet) will have a temperature rise of 25 degrees at 0.5 gpm.
> (that's the physics of water.  they're all going to have similar
> performance.  Anything that claims better is lying or has a tank)
> That will turn cold water into less cold water, or warm water into hot
> water.  you probably want something with a tank.
> 

I'm pretty sure that you can change the 120 outlet to a 240 3 prong outlet and 
use the existing wiring, as long as you re-wire it in the breaker box to have a 
240 breaker and stay within the current limits. A dumb heater will not need a 
neutral so the 14/2 or 12/2 (with ground) will work unless I'm having a senior 
moment. 

That said I think for hand washing a 120v heater is plenty as long as you keep 
the flow down. Personally, I know me and I would start using it for more than 
hand washing, so I'd go bigger. Actually I'd get a small tank heater and 
insulate top & botton with rigid foam and sides with a blanket. And the pipes 
too. 

Let us know what you end up doing.

jim
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