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Re: [Shop-talk] Eradicating yellowjackets in a stone wall?

To: Berry Kercheval <berry@kerch.com>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Eradicating yellowjackets in a stone wall?
From: John Innis <jdinnis@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2023 20:31:45 -0500
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Umm we need to talk about the concept of proportional response.  Also the
BATFE would like a word....

On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 8:09=E2=80=AFPM Berry Kercheval <berry@kerch.com> wr=
ote:

> Diesel fuel and ammonium nitrate, THEN the propane torch!
>
> On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 6:08 PM John Innis <jdinnis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> " I'm open to less Caddyshack-like solutions :-)"
>> So suggesting diesel fuel and a propane torch is right out?
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 5:16=E2=80=AFPM Jim Franklin <jamesf@groupwbench.=
org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've tried spray and dust (which may have been diatomaceous earth,
>>> landlord can't remember). Neither is making it into the hole in the gro=
und,
>>> which is either way far back or around a 90 degree bend.
>>>
>>> She's ordering delta dust but I'd like to rig up a remote blower for it
>>> so I can hit them during the day from a few feet away. I'm thinking a
>>> length of rubber tubing with a T junction, and I dump the powder into a
>>> funnel in the T junction and blow it to the other end.
>>>
>>> I'm open to less Caddyshack-like solutions :-)
>>>
>>> jim
>>>
>>> On Aug 6, 2023, at 8:59 AM, Eric Russell <ejrussell61@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The yellowjacket nests I've dealt with are in the ground. A can of
>>> hornet killing spray has eliminated them.
>>> https://diypestcontrol.com/yellowjackets.htm
>>>
>>> EjR
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 5:47=E2=80=AFAM Jim Franklin <jamesf@groupwbench=
.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I tried to kill a yellowjacket nest in a stone wall tonight. They are
>>>> entering at ground level. Any experienced opinions on where I should h=
ave
>>>> aimed the can? I only had one  :-)  Emptied 3/4 of it into the gap in =
the
>>>> wall but not a single angry wasp came out so I'm not convinced I hit
>>>> anything. Morning will tell.
>>>>
>>>> Should I expect they're in the ground, or would they have built a nest
>>>> amongst the rocks? I've never seen that.
>>>>
>>>> (fire, nukes, pros, all not viable options at the moment)
>>>>
>>>> If the can didn't work, any ideas on what to try next?
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> jim
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Umm we need to talk about the concept of proportional resp=
onse.=C2=A0 Also the BATFE would like a word....<br></div><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at =
8:09=E2=80=AFPM Berry Kercheval &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:berry@kerch.com";>berr=
y@kerch.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Diesel fuel and ammonium nitrate, THEN the pro=
pane torch!</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 6:08 PM John Innis &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:jdinnis@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jdinnis@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><div>&quot;
I&#39;m open to less Caddyshack-like solutions :-)&quot;</div><div>So sugge=
sting diesel fuel and a propane torch is right out?<br></div></div><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote"></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cl=
ass=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 5:16=E2=80=AFPM Jim Franklin &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:jamesf@groupwbench.org"; target=3D"_blank">jamesf@groupwbe=
nch.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px s=
olid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"></blockquote></div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.=
8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>I&#39;ve =
tried spray and dust (which may have been diatomaceous earth, landlord can&=
#39;t remember). Neither is making it into the hole in the ground, which is=
 either way far back or around a 90 degree bend.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>S=
he&#39;s ordering delta dust but I&#39;d like to rig up a remote blower for=
 it so I can hit them during the day from a few feet away. I&#39;m thinking=
 a length of rubber tubing with a T junction, and I dump the powder into a =
funnel in the T junction and blow it to the other end.=C2=A0</div><div><br>=
</div><div>I&#39;m open to less Caddyshack-like solutions :-)</div><div><br=
></div><div>jim<br><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Aug 6, 2023, =
at 8:59 AM, Eric Russell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ejrussell61@gmail.com"; targe=
t=3D"_blank">ejrussell61@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">The yellowjack=
et nests I&#39;ve dealt with are in the ground. A can of hornet killing spr=
ay has eliminated them.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fo=
nt-size:large"><a href=3D"https://diypestcontrol.com/yellowjackets.htm"; tar=
get=3D"_blank">https://diypestcontrol.com/yellowjackets.htm</a>=C2=A0<br></=
div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large"><br></div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">EjR=C2=A0</div></div><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug=
 6, 2023 at 5:47=E2=80=AFAM Jim Franklin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jamesf@group=
wbench.org" target=3D"_blank">jamesf@groupwbench.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></di=
v><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;borde=
r-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I tried to kill a yello=
wjacket nest in a stone wall tonight. They are entering at ground level. An=
y experienced opinions on where I should have aimed the can? I only had one=
=C2=A0 :-)=C2=A0 Emptied 3/4 of it into the gap in the wall but not a singl=
e angry wasp came out so I&#39;m not convinced I hit anything. Morning will=
 tell. <br>
<br>
Should I expect they&#39;re in the ground, or would they have built a nest =
amongst the rocks? I&#39;ve never seen that.<br>
<br>
(fire, nukes, pros, all not viable options at the moment)<br>
<br>
If the can didn&#39;t work, any ideas on what to try next?<br>
<br>
thanks,<br>
jim<br>
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