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little background... battery is in a 30kw Generac standby generator. Prote=
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from the weather
It exercised itself last week with no problem..
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cables and connectors were clean and tight. It was 2 years and 2 months ol=
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generator is equipt with a trickle charger that keeps battery topped off an=
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I've never had a problem with it. I think it's rated at 1 amp.
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took the battery back to Walmart and it was 2 months out of a 2 year warran=
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and they said they would give me a core charge ...nothing else, even though=
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EXPLODED !!
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I'm gonna wash the generator down with baking soda today. Signs of sprayed =
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with dirtbeard...I'm leaning toward internal short as I've seen lots of the=
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same thing on the net with Walmart batteries.....more to come
john
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From: old dirtbeard <dirtbeard@gmail.com>
To: Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com>
Cc: john <jniolon@att.net>, shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Sent: 10/7/2023 7:29:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] battery exploded ???
Guessing here, but perhaps the battery sulfated, the plates touched/shorted=
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caused internal short.=20
If the battery was not vented adequately, vents plugged, etc., it could hav=
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pressurized and exploded.
I use desulfating trickle chargers/battery tenders on all of my lead acid=
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batteries in hopes to extend the battery life and hopefully to prevent this=
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scenario.
Again, though, just guessing here.
On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 11:33=E2=80=AFPM Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com> w=
rote:
Never had this happen. Instead of getting a battery & rolling the dice as =
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whether you have a short in the generator, use the battery in a vehicle wit=
h=20
jumper cables & put a headlight in series with it. If the headlight doesn=
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light when you connect the leads, you don=E2=80=99t have a short. =20
Peace, Pat.=20
Pat Horne =20
We support Habitat for Humanity
On Oct 6, 2023, at 6:22 PM, john <jniolon@att.net> wrote:
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here's a new one for me... Hadn't heard my generator exercise lately so tri=
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to start it manually...click..ckick
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pulled the cover off and=20
here's what I found... top and side blown off and of course fluid drained =
out
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looks like it exploded... anyone seen this before?? can't=20
trouble shoot till I get another battery... what...other than a direct
short would cause this?? what/where/how would you troubleshoot ??
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">little background... battery is in a 30kw Gene=
rac standby generator. Protected from the weather</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"> It exercised itself last week with no pr=
oblem..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">cables and connectors were clean and tight.&nb=
sp; It was 2 years and 2 months old...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">generator is equipt with a trickle charger tha=
t keeps battery topped off and I've never had a problem with it. I th=
ink it's rated at 1 amp.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">took the battery back to Walmart and it was 2 =
months out of a 2 year warranty and they said they would give me a core cha=
rge ...nothing else, even though it EXPLODED !!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">I'm gonna wash the generator down with baking =
soda today. Signs of sprayed battery acid are evident everywhere. The=
n do some testing... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">I'm with dirtbeard...I'm leaning toward intern=
al short as I've seen lots of the same thing on the net with Walmart batter=
ies.....more to come</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">john</FONT></DIV>
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Subject:</B> Re: [Shop-talk] battery exploded ???</DIV>
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<DIV class=3Dgmail_default style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small">Guessing here, but pe=
rhaps the battery sulfated, the plates touched/shorted and caused internal =
short. </DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small"><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small">If the battery was no=
t vented adequately, vents plugged, etc., it could have pressurized and exp=
loded.</DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small"><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small">I use desulfating tri=
ckle chargers/battery tenders on all of my lead acid batteries in hopes to =
extend the battery life and hopefully to prevent this scenario.</DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small"><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small">Again, though, just g=
uessing here.</DIV></DIV><BR>
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<DIV class=3Dgmail_attr dir=3Dltr>On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 11:33=E2=80=AFPM P=
at Horne <<A href=3D"mailto:patintexas@icloud.com";>patintexas@icloud.com=
</A>> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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b(204,204,204) 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex">
<DIV>Never had this happen. Instead of getting a battery & rollin=
g the dice as to whether you have a short in the generator, use the battery=
in a vehicle with jumper cables & put a headlight in series with it. I=
f the headlight doesn=E2=80=99t light when you connect the leads, you don=
=E2=80=99t have a short. =20
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Peace, Pat. <BR><BR>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>Pat Horne =20
<DIV>We support Habitat for Humanity</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr><BR>On Oct 6, 2023, at 6:22 PM, john <<A href=3D"mailto:j=
niolon@att.net" target=3D_blank>jniolon@att.net</A>> wrote:<BR><BR></DIV=
>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>=EF=BB=BF=20
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">here's a new one for me... Hadn't heard my gen=
erator exercise lately so tried to start it manually...click..ckick</FONT><=
/DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">pulled the cover off and here's what I found..=
=2E top and side blown off and of course fluid drained out</FONT></DI=
V>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">looks like it exploded... anyone seen this bef=
ore?? can't trouble shoot till I get another battery... what...=
other than a direct</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">short would cause this?? what/wher=
e/how would you troubleshoot ??</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT> </DIV>
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