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Oh, 'one more thing:' If you do a fluid change, drain into a really 
clean container and check the fluid carefully for metal (use a magnet, 
etc.). If there's more than a tiny bit--some wear is normal, we are 
crunch a shift once-in-a-while--then a tear-down/replacement is the only 
option.

bs


On 5/25/2025 6:21 AM, Eric Russell wrote:
> I put < /2017 Jeep Patriot with a 5 speed manual transmission makes a 
> 'whirring' sound when driving in 3rd gear or higher / 
> <https://www.google.com/search?q=2017+Jeep+Patriot+with+a+5+speed+manual+transmission+makes+a+%27whirring%27+sound+when+driving+in+3rd+gear&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS1160US1160&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8>>
>  
> <https://www.google.com/search?q=2017+Jeep+Patriot+with+a+5+speed+manual+transmission+makes+a+%27whirring%27+sound+when+driving+in+3rd+gear&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS1160US1160&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8>
>  
> into Google and got lots of 'hits'. I did not search for an actual 
> answer but maybe it's in there somewhere...
>
> EjR
>
> On Sun, May 25, 2025 at 8:40â?¯AM Moose <eric@megageek.com> wrote:
>
>     Braintrust,
>
>     I don't mess with transmissions at all, so I'm in the dark here. 
>     Hopefully someone has the answer and it's an easy fix.
>
>     The issue,   2017 Jeep Patriot with a 5 speed manual transmission
>     makes a 'whirring' sound when driving in 3rd gear or higher.
>
>     Started about a year ago, when car was picked up from a franchise
>     mechanic shop.  (owner of car is a single woman without much money.)
>
>     When she called them back they where like, "Well, we would have to
>     charge you to look at it."  So since she already suspected they
>     caused the issues, she didn't want to give them more money.
>
>     She brought it to another shop and they said, "You need a new
>     transmission."  That will more than likely exceed the valve of the
>     Jeep. So they just did a fluid change, and that was it.  Note, in
>     their carfax report, they listed that they "installed a new
>     transmission" in addition to the fluid change, so I don't trust
>     them either.
>
>     It's a manual 5 speed.  I checked the fluid level and it is
>     exactly where it should be.  So I did a road test.
>
>     Here is the crazy part.
>     There is NOTHING that I can feel that would indicate any
>     transmission problems.  No slipping, no chucking, it shifts smooth
>     and pulls strong.  No vibrations.  The only thing is that noise,
>     and that ONLY happens when you give it throttle.
>
>     So if you are going down the street at 50, and take your foot off
>     the gas pedal, noise goes away. If you just give it a little gas,
>     noise returns.
>
>     If you have it in neutral coasting, no noise.  If you are engine
>     braking, no noise. The noise is ONLY if you have your foot on the
>     gas in the slightest.
>
>     Note, there is also no noticeable noise in 1st or 2nd gear.
>
>     I am thinking that the original shop did something to the car to
>     make it start this noise, knowing she would take it back there to
>     get it fixed and that it's a simple fix.
>
>     I would love to be able to fix this as it is a hard working girl
>     that doesn't have much money and really takes care of her car. 
>     She is also a good friend of my fiancee, so it would be bonus
>     points for me. 8>)
>
>     Thanks and I hope everyone takes a moment to think about all the
>     Soldier's that gave their lives to protect our freedoms, (no
>     matter what country you are from.)
>
>     Have a great weekend!
>
>     Moose_______________________________________________
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    Oh, 'one more thing:' If you do a fluid change, drain into a really
    clean container and check the fluid carefully for metal (use a
    magnet, etc.). If there's more than a tiny bit--some wear is normal,
    we are crunch a shift once-in-a-while--then a tear-down/replacement
    is the only option.<br>
    <br>
    bs<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/25/2025 6:21 AM, Eric Russell
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAP7dBXAW6C--9j4k_eEUJmHLLtykdSQKjGz5Um4K7uSaUH2cXg@mail.gmail.com">
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        <div class="gmail_default" style=""><font size="4">I put <a
href="https://www.google.com/search?q=2017+Jeep+Patriot+with+a+5+speed+manual+transmission+makes+a+%27whirring%27+sound+when+driving+in+3rd+gear&amp;rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS1160US1160&amp;sourceid=chrome&amp;ie=UTF-8";
              moz-do-not-send="true">&lt; <i><span
                  style="font-family:sans-serif">2017 Jeep Patriot with
                  a 5 speed manual transmission makes a 'whirring' sound
                  when driving in 3rd gear or 
higher</span> </i></a></font><span
            style="font-size:large"><a
href="https://www.google.com/search?q=2017+Jeep+Patriot+with+a+5+speed+manual+transmission+makes+a+%27whirring%27+sound+when+driving+in+3rd+gear&amp;rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS1160US1160&amp;sourceid=chrome&amp;ie=UTF-8";
              moz-do-not-send="true">&gt;</a> into Google and got lots
            of 'hits'. I did not search for an actual answer but maybe
            it's in there somewhere... </span></div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style=""><span
            style="font-size:large"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style=""><span
            style="font-size:large">EjR </span></div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, May 25, 2025 at
          8:40â?¯AM Moose &lt;<a href="mailto:eric@megageek.com";
            moz-do-not-send="true" 
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">eric@megageek.com</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid 
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font
            size="2" face="sans-serif">Braintrust,</font>
          <br>
          <br>
          <font size="2" face="sans-serif">I don't mess with
            transmissions at all,
            so I'm in the dark here.  Hopefully someone has the answer
            and it's
            an easy fix.</font>
          <br>
          <br>
          <font size="2" face="sans-serif">The issue,   2017 Jeep
            Patriot
            with a 5 speed manual transmission makes a 'whirring' sound
            when driving
            in 3rd gear or higher.</font>
          <br>
          <br>
          <font size="2" face="sans-serif">Started about a year ago,
            when car was
            picked up from a franchise mechanic shop.  (owner of car is
            a single
            woman without much money.) </font>
          <br>
          <br>
          <font size="2" face="sans-serif">When she called them back
            they where
            like, "Well, we would have to charge you to look at it."  So
            since she already suspected they caused the issues, she
            didn't want to
            give them more money.</font>
          <br>
          <br>
          <font size="2" face="sans-serif">She brought it to another
            shop and they
            said, "You need a new transmission."  That will more than
            likely exceed the valve of the Jeep. So they just did a
            fluid change, and
            that was it.  Note, in their carfax report, they listed that
            they
            "installed a new transmission" in addition to the fluid
            change,
            so I don't trust them either.</font>
          <br>
          <br>
          <font size="2" face="sans-serif">It's a manual 5 speed.  I
            checked
            the fluid level and it is exactly where it should be.  So I
            did a
            road test.</font>
          <br>
          <br>
          <font size="2" face="sans-serif">Here is the crazy part.</font>
          <br>
          <font size="2" face="sans-serif">There is NOTHING that I can
            feel that
            would indicate any transmission problems.  No slipping, no
            chucking,
            it shifts smooth and pulls strong.  No vibrations.  The only
            thing is that noise, and that ONLY happens when you give it
            throttle.</font>
          <br>
          <br>
          <font size="2" face="sans-serif">So if you are going down the
            street
            at 50, and take your foot off the gas pedal, noise goes
            away. If you just
            give it a little gas, noise returns.</font>
          <br>
          <br>
          <font size="2" face="sans-serif">If you have it in neutral
            coasting,
            no noise.  If you are engine braking, no noise. The noise is
            ONLY
            if you have your foot on the gas in the slightest.</font>
          <br>
          <br>
          <font size="2" face="sans-serif">Note, there is also no
            noticeable noise
            in 1st or 2nd gear.</font>
          <br>
          <br>
          <font size="2" face="sans-serif">I am thinking that the
            original shop
            did something to the car to make it start this noise,
            knowing she would
            take it back there to get it fixed and that it's a simple
            fix.</font>
          <br>
          <br>
          <font size="2" face="sans-serif">I would love to be able to
            fix this
            as it is a hard working girl that doesn't have much money
            and really takes
            care of her car.  She is also a good friend of my fiancee,
            so it would
            be bonus points for me. 8&gt;)</font>
          <br>
          <br>
          <font size="2" face="sans-serif">Thanks and I hope everyone
            takes a moment
            to think about all the Soldier's that gave their lives to
            protect our freedoms,
            (no matter what country you are from.)</font>
          <br>
          <br>
          <font size="2" face="sans-serif">Have a great weekend!</font>
          <br>
          <br>
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