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Jeff, this is a good idea. Will do.
The reason I'm really confused is that the noise is only when you give it
ANY throttle. So even if you are not accelerating (i.e. Not under load.),
but just have the pedal down a little, you hear the noise.
Wouldn't both the differential and drive shafts make noise all the time,
or at least under load?
But I plan to do a much deeper dive.
Thanks again to everyone with this.
Moose
From: Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate@gmail.com>
To: Moose <eric@megageek.com>
Cc: "shop-talk@autox.team.net" <Shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Date: 05/25/2025 11:03
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Manual transmission issue???
Have you checked the differential(s) and drive shafts? My TR6 had an
annoying transmission noise that, after a rebuild, turned out to be in the
diff.
Noises in a car are notoriously hard to track down by sitting inside.
On Sun, May 25, 2025, 08:47 Moose <eric@megageek.com> wrote:
Braintrust,
I don't mess with transmissions at all, so I'm in the dark here.
Hopefully someone has the answer and it's an easy fix.
The issue, 2017 Jeep Patriot with a 5 speed manual transmission makes a
'whirring' sound when driving in 3rd gear or higher.
Started about a year ago, when car was picked up from a franchise mechanic
shop. (owner of car is a single woman without much money.)
When she called them back they where like, "Well, we would have to charge
you to look at it." So since she already suspected they caused the
issues, she didn't want to give them more money.
She brought it to another shop and they said, "You need a new
transmission." That will more than likely exceed the valve of the Jeep.
So they just did a fluid change, and that was it. Note, in their carfax
report, they listed that they "installed a new transmission" in addition
to the fluid change, so I don't trust them either.
It's a manual 5 speed. I checked the fluid level and it is exactly where
it should be. So I did a road test.
Here is the crazy part.
There is NOTHING that I can feel that would indicate any transmission
problems. No slipping, no chucking, it shifts smooth and pulls strong.
No vibrations. The only thing is that noise, and that ONLY happens when
you give it throttle.
So if you are going down the street at 50, and take your foot off the gas
pedal, noise goes away. If you just give it a little gas, noise returns.
If you have it in neutral coasting, no noise. If you are engine braking,
no noise. The noise is ONLY if you have your foot on the gas in the
slightest.
Note, there is also no noticeable noise in 1st or 2nd gear.
I am thinking that the original shop did something to the car to make it
start this noise, knowing she would take it back there to get it fixed and
that it's a simple fix.
I would love to be able to fix this as it is a hard working girl that
doesn't have much money and really takes care of her car. She is also a
good friend of my fiancee, so it would be bonus points for me. 8>)
Thanks and I hope everyone takes a moment to think about all the Soldier's
that gave their lives to protect our freedoms, (no matter what country you
are from.)
Have a great weekend!
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<font size=2 face="sans-serif">Jeff, this is a good idea. Will do.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">The reason I'm really confused is that
the noise is only when you give it ANY throttle. So even if you are
not accelerating (i.e. Not under load.), but just have the pedal down a
little, you hear the noise.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Wouldn't both the </font><font
size=3>differential
and drive shafts make noise all the time, or at least under load?</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">But I plan to do a much deeper dive.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Thanks again to everyone with this.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Moose</font>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">From:
</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Jeff Scarbrough
<fishplate@gmail.com></font>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">To:
</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Moose
<eric@megageek.com></font>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Cc:
</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">"shop-talk@autox.team.net"
<Shop-talk@autox.team.net></font>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Date:
</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">05/25/2025 11:03</font>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Subject:
</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Re: [Shop-talk]
Manual transmission issue???</font>
<br>
<hr noshade>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=3>Have you checked the differential(s) and drive shafts?
My TR6 had an annoying transmission noise that, after a rebuild, turned
out to be in the diff. </font>
<br>
<br><font size=3>Noises in a car are notoriously hard to track down by
sitting inside.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3>On Sun, May 25, 2025, 08:47 Moose <</font><a
href=mailto:eric@megageek.com><font size=3
color=blue><u>eric@megageek.com</u></font></a><font size=3>>
wrote:</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Braintrust,</font><font size=3> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
I don't mess with transmissions at all, so I'm in the dark here.
Hopefully someone has the answer and it's an easy fix.</font><font size=3>
<br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
The issue, 2017 Jeep Patriot with a 5 speed manual transmission
makes a 'whirring' sound when driving in 3rd gear or higher.</font><font size=3>
<br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
Started about a year ago, when car was picked up from a franchise mechanic
shop. (owner of car is a single woman without much money.) </font><font
size=3><br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
When she called them back they where like, "Well, we would have to
charge you to look at it." So since she already suspected they
caused the issues, she didn't want to give them more money.</font><font size=3>
<br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
She brought it to another shop and they said, "You need a new
transmission."
That will more than likely exceed the valve of the Jeep. So they
just did a fluid change, and that was it. Note, in their carfax report,
they listed that they "installed a new transmission" in addition
to the fluid change, so I don't trust them either.</font><font size=3>
<br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
It's a manual 5 speed. I checked the fluid level and it is exactly
where it should be. So I did a road test.</font><font size=3> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
Here is the crazy part.</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2
face="sans-serif"><br>
There is NOTHING that I can feel that would indicate any transmission
problems.
No slipping, no chucking, it shifts smooth and pulls strong. No
vibrations.
The only thing is that noise, and that ONLY happens when you give it
throttle.</font><font size=3>
<br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
So if you are going down the street at 50, and take your foot off the gas
pedal, noise goes away. If you just give it a little gas, noise
returns.</font><font size=3>
<br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
If you have it in neutral coasting, no noise. If you are engine braking,
no noise. The noise is ONLY if you have your foot on the gas in the
slightest.</font><font size=3>
<br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
Note, there is also no noticeable noise in 1st or 2nd gear.</font><font size=3>
<br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
I am thinking that the original shop did something to the car to make it
start this noise, knowing she would take it back there to get it fixed
and that it's a simple fix.</font><font size=3> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
I would love to be able to fix this as it is a hard working girl that doesn't
have much money and really takes care of her car. She is also a good
friend of my fiancee, so it would be bonus points for me. 8>)</font><font
size=3>
<br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
Thanks and I hope everyone takes a moment to think about all the Soldier's
that gave their lives to protect our freedoms, (no matter what country
you are from.)</font><font size=3> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
Have a great weekend!</font><font size=3> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
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