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To: Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] gotto love outlook
From: Ronnie Day <ronnie.day@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2025 12:01:59 -0600
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I prefer browser based email instead of a client/server model. Been on
GMail since it was launched but always looking at alternatives, too.
Browser based lets you access all of your messages from any platform;
Windows, Mac, iOS, Android, etc. I use it as a kind of sneakernet if I want
to move a file from one device to another.

One thing I don't do is store anything sensitive or financial online. Then
I'll use a flash drive to move a file between computers. Am I paranoid...?!
You bet!!

RD

On Sun, Nov 2, 2025 at 11:40=E2=80=AFAM Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com> w=
rote:

> Interesting. I also use Thunderbird & it mostly keeps my 2 computer=E2=80=
=99s &
> iPhone in sync, including deleting things from all platforms but on
> occasion I find thatemails I have on my phone don=E2=80=99t appear on the=
 PCs.
>
> The main thing I wish was possible was to have the same trash folder
> across everything. I=E2=80=99ve deleted a message on a PC & then realize =
that it
> contained some information that I can=E2=80=99t access from my phone or e=
ven a
> different PC. Has anyone found d an email server that I might want to loo=
k
> into?
>
> To keep this sort of on topic, one of my PC is in my shop.
>
> Pat Horne
> We support Habitat for Humanity
>
>
> On Nov 1, 2025, at 10:27=E2=80=AFAM, Jim Juhas <james.f.juhas@snet.net> w=
rote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF I use Thunderbird and exactly the opposite happened! Tim's orig=
inal in
> my inbox and Pat and Jim went to the junk folder.
>
> Thunderbird's junk identification is supposed to learn from the
> corrections I make, and for a while the behavior improved. But it's
> inconsistent.
>
> I have a bunch of filters set up to try to control the behavior that live
> on my desktop, which is always on and processing email. I use the imap
> version so that the server holds all the stuff; that way I can see the
> results on my phone and laptops. Even so, the results are still
> inconsistent but at least I'm seeing the same thing on each device..
>
> Jim Juhas
>
> <MGA_311_LRP_2.JPG>
>
> On 11/1/2025 9:51 AM, Jim Stone wrote:
>
> I=E2=80=99d say about 1/3 to 1/2 of all emails from this group go into my=
 spam
> folder.  (Gmail address accessed through Apple's Mail App.)  This thread =
is
> a good example.  I got Pat=E2=80=99s response in my inbox, while Tim=E2=
=80=99s original was
> in my junk folder.
>
> On Nov 1, 2025, at 9:21=E2=80=AFAM, Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com>
> <patintexas@icloud.com> wrote:
>
> Mine does too, most of the time. I haven=E2=80=99t taken the time to see =
if it
> happens with all my emails, I don=E2=80=99t use outlook, but from my iPho=
ne & I
> think from Thunderbird.
>
> Pat Horne
> We support Habitat for Humanity
>
>
> On Nov 1, 2025, at 8:08=E2=80=AFAM, Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com>
> <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> My own email to this group goes into my junk mail folder every time. Ffs
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I prefer browser based email instead of a client/server mo=
del. Been on GMail since it was launched but always looking at alternatives=
, too. Browser based lets you access all of your messages from any platform=
; Windows, Mac, iOS, Android, etc. I use it as a kind of sneakernet if I wa=
nt to move a file from one device to another.<br><br>One thing I don&#39;t =
do is store=C2=A0anything=C2=A0sensitive or financial online. Then I&#39;ll=
 use a flash drive to move a file between computers. Am I paranoid...?! You=
 bet!!<div><br></div><div>RD</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail=
_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Nov 2, 2025=
 at 11:40=E2=80=AFAM Pat Horne &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:patintexas@icloud.com"=
>patintexas@icloud.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,2=
04);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Interesting. I also use Thunderbird=
 &amp; it mostly keeps my 2 computer=E2=80=99s &amp; iPhone in sync, includ=
ing deleting things from all platforms but on occasion I find thatemails I =
have on my phone don=E2=80=99t appear on the PCs.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>=
The main thing I wish was possible was to have the same trash folder across=
 everything. I=E2=80=99ve deleted a message on a PC &amp; then realize that=
 it contained some information that I can=E2=80=99t access from my phone or=
 even a different PC. Has anyone found d an email server that I might want =
to look into?</div><div><br></div><div>To keep this sort of on topic, one o=
f my PC is in my shop.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>Pat Horne=C2=A0<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br></div></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Nov 1, 2025, at 10:27=E2=80=AFAM, Jim Juhas &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:james.f.juhas@snet.net"; target=3D"_blank">james.f.juhas@=
snet.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

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   =20
 =20
 =20
    I use Thunderbird and exactly the opposite happened! Tim&#39;s original
    in my inbox and Pat and Jim went to the junk folder.<br>
    <br>
    Thunderbird&#39;s junk identification is supposed to learn from the
    corrections I make, and for a while the behavior improved. But it&#39;s
    inconsistent.=C2=A0<br>
    <br>
    I have a bunch of filters set up to try to control the behavior that
    live on my desktop, which is always on and processing email. I use
    the imap version so that the server holds all the stuff; that way I
    can see the results on my phone and laptops. Even so, the results
    are still inconsistent but at least I&#39;m seeing the same thing on
    each device..<br>
    <br>
    Jim Juhas
    <div><br>
      <div>&lt;MGA_311_LRP_2.JPG&gt;</div></div>
    <br>
    <div>On 11/1/2025 9:51 AM, Jim Stone wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      I=E2=80=99d say about 1/3 to 1/2 of all emails from this group go int=
o my
      spam folder. =C2=A0(Gmail address accessed through Apple&#39;s Mail A=
pp.)
      =C2=A0This thread is a good example.=C2=A0 I got Pat=E2=80=99s respon=
se in my inbox,
      while Tim=E2=80=99s original was in my junk folder. =C2=A0<br id=3D"m=
_-4701229768489741890lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage">
      <div><br>
        <blockquote type=3D"cite">
          <div>On Nov 1, 2025, at 9:21=E2=80=AFAM, Pat Horne
            <a href=3D"mailto:patintexas@icloud.com"; target=3D"_blank">&lt;=
patintexas@icloud.com&gt;</a> wrote:</div>
          <br>
          <div>
           =20
            <div dir=3D"auto">Mine does too, most of the time. I haven=E2=
=80=99t
              taken the time to see if it happens with all my emails, I
              don=E2=80=99t use outlook, but from my iPhone &amp; I think f=
rom
              Thunderbird.=C2=A0
              <div><br id=3D"m_-4701229768489741890lineBreakAtBeginningOfSi=
gnature">
                <div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne=C2=A0
                  <div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                </div>
                <div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
                  On Nov 1, 2025, at 8:08=E2=80=AFAM, Tim .
                  <a href=3D"mailto:tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com"; target=
=3D"_blank">&lt;tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com&gt;</a> wrote:<br>
                  <br>
                </div>
                <div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
                 =20
                  <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:12pt">
                    My own email to this group goes into my junk mail
                    folder every time. Ffs=C2=A0</div>
                  <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:12pt">
                    <br>
                  </div>
                  <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:12pt">
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