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Re: Bugeye horn and clutch roller bearing

To: Larry & Sandi Miller <millerls@ado13.com>
Subject: Re: Bugeye horn and clutch roller bearing
From: Mike Maclean <macleans@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 16:51:43 -0700
Cc: "spridgets@autox.team.net" <spridgets@autox.team.net>, Bryan Vandiver <Bryan.Vandiver@Eng.Sun.COM>
References: <199908132211.PAA08498@shorter.eng.sun.com> <001101bee67f$b81e9680$609ee3cd@mbayweb.com>
Reply-to: Mike Maclean <macleans@earthlink.net>
Sender: owner-spridgets@autox.team.net
The horn relay for the Bugeye came with the optional twin windtone horns.  Not
many ordered that way.  I've never seen one, but the relay shows on the
electrical schematic for the optional horns on the Bugeye schematic.
Mike Maclean-60 Sprite

Larry & Sandi Miller wrote:

> Bryan
>
> The Bugeye did not have a hone relay that I know of but you can surely add
> one. In the normal setup the horn is always hot. The button just completes
> the ground.
>
> Larry Miller
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bryan Vandiver <Bryan.Vandiver@Eng.Sun.COM>
> To: <Bryan.Vandiver@Eng.Sun.COM>; <spridgets@autox.team.net>;
> <millerls@ado13.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 3:06 PM
> Subject: Re: Bugeye horn and clutch roller bearing
>
> > Larry,
> >
> > I'm also wondering why they have two wires off the harness going to the
> horn, instead of
> > just  grounding the horn directly to the frame??? The wiring diagram
> doesn't go into
> > very much detail here, but it seems like some literature implies that
> there may be a
> > 'relay' for the horn? I'd like to have TWO horns (high, low) but I'm
> beginning to have
> > serious doubts about drawing that much current through the normal horn
> circuit.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Bryan
> >
> > >To: "Bryan Vandiver" <Bryan.Vandiver@eng.sun.com>,
> <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> > >Subject: Re: Bugeye horn and clutch roller bearing
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> > >
> > >Bryan,
> > >
> > >If this turns out to be your problem and you come up with a better fix
> than
> > >mine, I'd like to hear about it. I'm still not getting a perfect ground
> and
> > >LBC's need loud horns.
> > >
> > >I don't seem to be getting a good connection between the rack and the
> column
> > >even tho it's metal to metal.
> > >
> > >I don't see how there ever was a ground between the column and the car.
> How
> > >the hell did the factory get the horn to work?
> > >
> > >Now I'm really really leaving for San Francisco....
> > >
> > >Larry Miller
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Bryan Vandiver <Bryan.Vandiver@eng.sun.com>
> > >To: <Bryan.Vandiver@eng.sun.com>; <spridgets@autox.team.net>;
> > ><millerls@ado13.com>
> > >Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 2:20 PM
> > >Subject: Re: Bugeye horn and clutch roller bearing
> > >
> > >
> > >> Larry,
> > >>
> > >> That makes total sense, seeing that I put a really nice thick coat of
> > >eastwood's chassie
> > >> black on the rack assembly, and also used the 'orginal gaskets on the
> > >mounting clamps,
> > >> In fact, I can't think of any place that there is a 'direct' metal to
> > >metal contact
> > >> between the rack and the body.
> > >> Thanks for the tip.
> > >>
> > >> Regards - Bryan
> > >>
> > >> >To: "Bryan Vandiver" <Bryan.Vandiver@eng.sun.com>,
> > ><spridgets@autox.team.net>
> > >> >Subject: Re: Bugeye horn and clutch roller bearing
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> > >> >
> > >> >Bryan,
> > >> >
> > >> >I ended up running a ground wire from the steering rack on the left
> side
> > >to
> > >> >the inner fender brace.
> > >> >
> > >> >Seems that I did too good of a job when rebuilding the steering column
> > >and
> > >> >rack on mine. I have the steering column completely isolated from the
> > >car.
> > >> >
> > >> >Even with the wire I only get about 3/4 volume on the horn as opposed
> to
> > >> >grounding the horn directly to the frame.
> > >> >
> > >> >Larry Miller
> > >> >http://www.ado13.com
> > >> >Never try to baptize a cat.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >----- Original Message -----
> > >> >From: Bryan Vandiver <Bryan.Vandiver@Eng.Sun.COM>
> > >> >To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> > >> >Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 12:23 PM
> > >> >Subject: Bugeye horn and clutch roller bearing
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >> Hi all,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I'm calling on the infinite wisdom of the list again, with two more
> > >> >questions.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> 1) I can't get the horn on my newly restored Bugeye to work. I've
> > >tested
> > >> >the Lucas horn
> > >> >> I have by just hooking it directly  to the battery, and it works
> fine.
> > >> >When I check the
> > >> >> voltage on the two wires on the 'new harness' I have installed, I
> > >appear
> > >> >to only be
> > >> >> getting about 7 volts across them with the horn button in. I have a
> new
> > >> >horn 'bush'
> > >> >> installed, and the contact ring was in decent condition, and I put a
> > >very
> > >> >light coat of
> > >> >> lithium grease on it. My next set is to pull the steering wheel and
> try
> > >> >shorting the
> > >> >> ring directly to ground. Any other suggestions.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> 2) has any one installed one of the 1275-clutch roller bearings?? I
> > >have
> > >> >one that I got
> > >> >> from Winner's circle installed, and I was wondering if I was
> supposed
> > >to
> > >> >modify the
> > >> >> standard spring pressure plate when using this roller bearing?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Regards,
> > >> >> Bryan Vandiver (59- bugeye)
> > >> >> San Jose, CA
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >


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