Another excellent response!
Mike MacLean-60 Sprite
Robert Duquette wrote:
> Something's cooking here! :)
>
> >Yes, I do eat meat from the supermarket, but what's that got to do with
> it?!
> You are promoting the ongoing imprisonment of animals. Animals who live a
> false life. Suddenly one day, the farmer takes them away and slaughters
> them. Well, he may not do it himself, any more than you would. A little
> hint for you all ... the meat doesn't 'come' from the supermarket. There
> was life in that meat, as there was life in everything that we eat. Whether
> you kill it yourself, or pay someone else to do, it still equates to pretty
> much the same thing. Something's going to die. ( vegetable or animal )
>
> >I don't brag about the size of the steak that I bought there ...
> No? Some people would! I think that to brag about what a good provider is
> a fairly normal part of being a man!
>
> > ..., and people who
> >work in the slaughter houses don't brag about the cow they killed to
> provide
> >meat to the supermarkets.
> But again, they probably brag about the quality or quantity of their work.
>
> > It's all a matter of survival, not
> >"sport"......and please don't try to tell me that the reason you go out to
> >shoot Bambi is to put food on your table. That ain't gonna fly!
> Well ... yes and no! The venison that I bring home is a higher quality of
> "lean" meat than you're going to find elsewhere. Sport? No, it's not
> sport. Correct me if I am wrong folks, but sport hunting is trophy hunting.
> It is recreation for me though. Getting back to nature. Lots of exercise.
> If people depended on hunting to bring the meat home instead of
> "domesticating" cattle, the world wouldn't be overpopulated.
>
> Are you aware of the problems that cattle and swine are to our ecological
> system. Apparently, they consume 70 litres of water for every Big Mac ( or
> it might be per pound of beef, but you get the picture?)and our planet
> cannot sustain that.
>
> I'm not an animator. Walt Disney had some people shoot Bambi. And, I
> promise you, when deer and rabbits and skunks talk and associate with each
> other, I'll stop hunting.
>
> > You have
> >deceived yourself into thinking that you are a macho hunter,
> Very humble, I'm afraid ... I think that if I had to depend on hunting to
> sustain my family, we would starve.
>
> Try it sometime. Grab a camera with regular speed film and go out and get a
> non-blurred perfectly centered shot from 100 yards or so, and limit yourself
> to 1 shot per deer. See who's better equipped, you or the deer. Prepare to
> be humbled.
>
> > but, again, I
> >say, "Where is the sport when there is no chance of the hunter losing and
> no
> >chance of Bambi winning?"
> Well ... Bambi almost got me and my family on the last evening of the
> regular rifle season. Like many other deer do to other people, he
> challenged my car. He didn't win, because I avoided him. Have you ever
> seen a car with a deer or moose through the windshield back to the back
> doors? I have! I think that that was the first dead person that I saw.
> The person in the passenger seat had a broken back, and survival wasn't
> assured. This year someone hit a moose and it flipped over their car and
> landed on the car behind. I think that only one died and 2 have been in the
> hospital for quite some time. The statistics for the last hunting season
> was something like 630 hits for the deer to 250 or so deer harvested by
> hunting. Forty percent of car accidents in that neighbourhood are caused by
> deer. They don't need a rifle.
>
> Culling of the herd will happen one way or another where I am. Imagine a
> job that needs to be done, and you can get people to pay you for the
> priviledge of doing it for you instead of using tax money. There is only so
> much food and if there are too many deer, lots starve or get weak and
> consumed by coyotes or wolves, who then reproduce quite well and when the
> deer are gone, what do the predators eat? Your dog? Small children?
>
> > If you want to be a real sport, do something
> >where there's some danger involved for you, too!
> I drive our highways.
>
> BTW, I got my deer Saturday morning.
>
> Robert Duquette
> Ottawa ON Canada
> http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette
> RobertDuquette@Sympatico.ca
> '65 RHD BRG Sprite
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wiedemeyer <boxweed@thebest.net>
> >Yes, I do eat meat from the supermarket, but what's that got to do with
> it?!
> >I don't brag about the size of the steak that I bought there, and people
> who
> >work in the slaughter houses don't brag about the cow they killed to
> provide
> >meat to the supermarkets. It's all a matter of survival, not
> >"sport"......and please don't try to tell me that the reason you go out to
> >shoot Bambi is to put food on your table. That ain't gonna fly! You have
> >deceived yourself into thinking that you are a macho hunter, but, again, I
> >say, "Where is the sport when there is no chance of the hunter losing and
> no
> >chance of Bambi winning?" If you want to be a real sport, do something
> >where there's some danger involved for you, too!
> >
> >Bob
> >>
> >>Wiedemeyer wrote:
> >>
> >>> By the way, where is the "sport"?! Give Bambi a gun too, then it
> becomes
> >a
> >>> sport!!
> >>>
> >>> Bob
> >>>
> >>> ><< You must mean a distant descendent of Bambi? I would guess that the
> >>> Bambi
> >>> > of the '50s(?) died a long time ago. My father-in-law says that
> >animals
> >>> in
> >>> > the wild don't die of natural causes, so I won't say 'of old age'. >>
> >>> >
> >>> >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> >>> >
> >>> >Bambi was released in 1942. The movie was released, I guess Bambi was
> >born
> >>> >then...
> >>> >
> >>> >Allen Hefner
> >>> >SCCA Philly Region Rally Steward
> >>> >'77 Midget
> >>> >'92 Mitsubishi Expo LRV Sport
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