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Re: HIF queries.

To: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut@Exit109.com>, <Daniel1312@aol.com>
Subject: Re: HIF queries.
From: "Mike Gigante" <mikeg@vicnet.net.au>
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 10:48:15 +1100
Cc: <soavero@yahoo.com>, <derfman@eatel.net>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <0.954d8ca.2592878d@aol.com> <38614FCA.99300D62@exit109.com>
Reply-to: "Mike Gigante" <mikeg@vicnet.net.au>
Sender: owner-spridgets@autox.team.net
I did the following

same car

before:

HIF6, K&N housing and filter, Maniflow LCB, monza style exhaust, 1380,
Kent 266 cam, standard rockers, Longman GT6 head

after:

DCOE45, K&N filter and housing, Brownrigg LCB exhaust, much better muffler
(in
terms of performance), 1380, 1.5 roller rockers. same cam, same head.

Difference? Not that noticable It was maybe 5 or 10 HP which reprensented 5%
or 10% I guess. (Mini Mania claimed the 'before' setup was 115 HP, but it
was
more like 95)

For what the change in setup cost me, it wasn't worth it, even though the
sound of the Weber is always nice! I ended up uping the cam to a 286, then
swapping the cam
to a race/rally cam and swapping the head to a full race. That is the
current setup
and it is now around 130HP. Much nicer!

In summary? Well, the HIF6 worked well and didn't seem to be a drain on
performance
for the hot road setup. The gains I saw on the change were almost certainly
due to
rockers, extractors and muffler.

However, for the current setup there is no way I'd go for the HIF6 but the
engine is
a totally different animal now.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut@Exit109.com>
To: <Daniel1312@aol.com>
Cc: <soavero@yahoo.com>; <derfman@eatel.net>; <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, 23 December 1999 9:25
Subject: Re: HIF queries.


> Daniel1312@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 22/12/99 03:07:44 GMT Standard Time,
soavero@yahoo.com
> > writes:
> >
> > << I plan to use one
> >  > on a 1275 Midget and so far have heard from one
> >  > other person who had
> >  > poor results.  >>
> >
> > Frank?
> >
> > Daniel1312
>
>
> Yup, that would be me.
> I have it back on the A40 and again, there is NO WAY this carb and a 40
> DCOE are  as Vizard says "similar in flow" Well maybe they are similar
> in flow but the Weber will blow the doors off the HIF.
> I went thru all of the needles, I filed down needles, cut springs, used
> thick oil, thin oil, no oil, you name it if someone suggested it, I
> tried it.
> The only positive thing I can find on the HIF44 is good mileage.
> I put the SU back on the A40 and that day my daughter started
> complaining "I want the Weber back" I don't car about mileage, I want to
> go fast!"
>
> Now unless I have something way out of line on my set up like the needle
> is in upside down or something weird like that, but I tried a few
> different carbs on 2 different manifolds and there was no difference,
> even switching the needles makes no difference except for idling.
>
> What I want to hear from are people who have tried both the HIF and a
> Weber side draft on the same car. Bench testing is one thing but my car
> doesn't drive on a bench. Lets see some ROAD tests.
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Too many Sprites (again)
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut
>


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