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To: spridgets@autox.team.net, "Mark Lawyer" <mlawyer@starpower.net>
Subject: Re: GUN CONTROL*NO LBC CONTENT* DELETE NOW IF NOT INTERESTED
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 21:42:17 -0700
You got my vote for President.
Mike MacLean-60 Sprite


> [Original Message]
> From: Mark Lawyer <mlawyer@starpower.net>
> To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> Date: 07/12/2000 9:10:24 PM
> Subject: Re: GUN CONTROL*NO LBC CONTENT* DELETE NOW IF NOT INTERESTED
>
> I was never a card carrying NRA member...... until this year.  I just
> joined, thanks to Bill Clinton.
> 
> I don't know whether he is well-intentioned or not.  I can't read his
mind.
> I do observe what he has done.   He does not hesitate to impose his
> political views on others through the use of force, initimidation, or any
> other means available.  Our founding fathers had experience with strong
> central governments.  They tried to build protections against future
abuses
> of such power.  They didn't even want to have a standing army.  They
> believed a militia, comprised of volunteers, would better protect against
> the power of the State.
> 
> Freedom was once considered by most Americans to be cherished more than
life
> itself.  Too many of us, in my humble opinion, now prefer to be secure,
safe
> and taken care of by big government.  Some among us say, "Take my freedom.
> Just give me food, shelter, medical care, and don't let me have to worry
> about taking responsibility for my own life."   Even worse, some of us are
> willing to take those freedoms from our fellow citizens.
> 
> If we favor education over legislation, we will, I believe, develop a more
> responsible citizenry.   I concede that there will, no matter how much we
> educate, sometimes be abuses and crazy people and poor judgment.  But
these
> exceptions should not, in my opinion, be sufficient reason to deprive
> responsible citizens of their freedoms and quality of life.  Some of you
> won't understand this, but I would rather live free and risk being shot
by a
> madman than live under an oppressive system of laws where every aspect of
my
> life is regulated by a "benevolent" but unsympathetic and all-powerful
> government..  The term "wild west" in one post was, I think, intended as a
> derogatory term, probably by someone who values safety and security above
> freedom.  For anyone still reading, there are few things as precious as
> freedom.  Without it, life has little quality, value or meaning.
> 
> We cannot achieve greatness, as a nation or individually, by force or by a
> deluge of laws and regulations.  We can achieve greatness and true quality
> of life only when we are free to govern ourselves.
> 
> OK.....I feel better...... I'll be quiet now.........
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: BILL <billh@aaai.com>
> To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> Cc: 'Mike Maclean' <macleans@earthlink.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 1:33 PM
> Subject: RE: GUN CONTROL*NO LBC CONTENT* DELETE NOW IF NOT INTERESTED
> 
> 
> > My sentiments exactly Mike. I used to be a card carrying NRA member and
> even
> > helped my father teach gun safety courses but I don't agree completely
> with
> > their ideas anymore.
> >
> > Bill Hunt
> > 64 MKII Sprite - HRBYTOY
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "The Constitution does not recognize "sporting use" of firearms.  The
> > framers had a much more serious intention for civilian ownership."
> > Mike MacLean-60 Sprite
> >
> >
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: <type79@ix.netcom.com>
> > > To: spridgets@autox.team.net <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> > > Date: 07/12/2000 8:45:25 AM
> > > Subject: Re: GUN CONTROL*NO LBC CONTENT* DELETE NOW IF NOT INTERESTED
> > >
> > > Bag of Worms Time.
> > >
> > > This is an interesting story.
> > >
> > > I don't think it has a great deal of relevance to those of us in the
> > United
> > > States, but it brings up  questions that always go through my mind
when
> > the
> > > "defense of person and property" argument is raised.
> > >
> > > What is the occurrence rate of residential break-ins in which the
> > intruders are
> > > armed?
> > >
> > > Of those break-ins, what is the rate of injuries, minor or fatal, to
> > occupants
> > > of those homes?
> > >
> > > Of those break-ins, what is the rate of successful defenses by armed
> home
> > > owners?
> > >
> > > Personally, I don't buy these "wild west" arguments. I would feel as
> > violated as
> > > the next person if my home were burglarized, but I don't think the
> > intruder
> > > should be put to death for breaking and entering. Gun advocates also
> > cannot
> > > ignore the unfortunate instances of household members who have been
> > gunned down
> > > by gun-owning homeowners thinking that their homes are being invaded.
> > >
> > > With that said, I have no problem with the safe and responsible
> ownership
> > and
> > > sporting use of guns.
> > >
> > > I'm sure this thread will go on for a few dozen messages and I
probably
> > > unintentionally offended some listers that I consider friends. If
that's
> > the
> > > case, I apologize.
> > >
> > > Jay Fishbein
> > > Wallingford, CT
> > > Pellet guns and Slingshots
> > > But no hand grenades, land mines, or thermo-nuclear devices.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Mike Maclean
> > --- macleans@earthlink.net
> > --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.
> >
> 



--- Mike Maclean
--- macleans@earthlink.net
--- EarthLink: It's your Internet.



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