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2 Re: Magazines = facts?

To: tboicey@brit.ca
Subject: 2 Re: Magazines = facts?
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 06:29:23 EDT
Cc: kgb@clipper.net, spridgets@autox.team.net
Most car magazines are basically lazy.  Do you think they actually took 2 
standard cars, had the power checked as being correct for the spec and then 
road tested them?  I think they just looked up the figures in a book and 
re-produced them.

I think you need to get away from engine size and performance.  Performance 
is about the engine power output V the vehicle weight and vehicle 
aerodynamics.  A bugeye with a 1275 always wipes the floor with a 1275 box 
sprite (all other things being equal)because it weighs so much less.

Of all the Spridgets the 1500 was the heaviest.

Daniel1312



In a message dated 23/09/00 09:33:54 GMT Daylight Time, tboicey@brit.ca 
writes:

<<  I am not saying that everything printed by magazines is
 true, but really, what "secret motif" would a September
 2000 issue of Practical Classics magazine have to lie
 about the 1500 being faster?
 
   It doesn't take a master of subtleties to notice there's
 a difference between an advertising pitch of a company
 that has everything to gain (Frank's reference to Ginsu
 knives and Miracle Car Wax), and classic car magazine intended
 to give hobbyists information on old cars.
 
   Last time this discussion went around, this issue of PC
 magazine wasn't yet written, but very similar numbers
 came out from other sources. The Brooklands Gold Portfolio
 for example, says basically the same information give
 or take a tenth here and there.
 
   Is it a conspiracy by ALL print companies, books and
 magazines, to lie about 1500s being faster than 1275s? 
 
   Do we need Austin Powers to come charging in to save
 us all from this horrible cartel?
 
   A more important point, what's with the 1275cc mental
 blocks, and the religious devotion to defending it?
 
   Everyone can understand the 1098 is faster than the 948,
 because it's bigger.
 
   Everyone can understand the 1275 is faster still than the
 1098, because it's bigger.
 
   Why is it so hard for some people to accept that the
 1500cc is faster than the 1275, because it's bigger? You
 may not like that the engine was made by Triumph, but the
 two engines are essentially the same design, pushrods,
 2 valves per cylinder, non-crossflow, etc.
 
   Do you really beleive that somehow Austin/MG "magic"
 lives on in the design so that, for no apparent
 reason, it can outperform a similar design with
 over 200 more cc?
 
   Is the law-of-displacement somehow maximized at 1275cc,
 and everything larger starts to lose?  Should we then
 be surprised that 7 liter cadillacs can even generate
 enough power to move their own sorry own weight? 
 
   After all, they are burdened by almost an additional
 6 liters, not just the minute 200cc the poor 1500cc
 engine is saddled with!
 
   Accept, people. Accept.
 
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