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Re: [Spridgets] VIN number issue

To: Bob Spruck <raspruck@gmail.com>, Spridget list <Spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] VIN number issue
From: GUY DAY via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 10:46:54 +0000
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Should you be wary about anomalies such as this? =A0If you had ever been th=
e owner of a car stolen from you then this would ring very loud warning bel=
ls.=A0=0AIf the engine is meant to be original then look for the aluminium =
engine number plate riveted on a horizontal platform towards the front of t=
he block. =A0Has that gone missing as well? =A0Then you go looking for pain=
t colour oddities and because it is a 50 year old car there is guaranteed t=
o be something.=A0=0A=0AThere can be 1001 good, honest reasons for the oddi=
ties with this motor but will you be thinking, in the back of your mind, th=
at this was someone's pride and joy before it was taken and changed into wh=
at is seen before me. =A0If you don't get it then some else will and does y=
our inner voice say, 'Its a 50 odd year old car, there are bound to be some=
 faults', or does it say, 'This car isn't right, stay well clear'.=0A=0AIde=
ntifying plates do not normally fall off on their own and my 45 year old Sp=
rite has them where they should be. =A0It is not just the anomaly in the nu=
mber it is the reason the anomaly has arisen that should be looked into.=0A=
=0ASorry to be so negative but as an owner who has had cars taken (yes, plu=
ral) it does bring things to the fore again.=0A=0A=0AGuy R Day=A0=0A=0A=0A=
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Bob Spruck via Spr=
idgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>=0ATo: Spridget list <Spridgets@autox.team=
.net> =0ASent: Tuesday, 24 March 2015, 1:30=0ASubject: [Spridgets] VIN numb=
er issue=0A =0A=0A=0AOn a Bugeye I am interested in, I have discovered an a=
pparent anomaly in the year and VIN. The car has no VIN plate but is consid=
ered to be a 1961 Mk1 and has been registered in two states as such. Howeve=
r, the VIN is listed on both registrations as AN5L xxxx. Since they made, w=
hat, 59,000 Bugeyes and ended in 1961, a car considered a '61 should have a=
 five digit number, somewhere approaching 59,000. If the four digit number =
is correct, it should be, I expect, maybe a '59. =0A=0AIs there any other p=
lace that the VIN appears? Or any other way=0A        of determining the tr=
ue VIN number or true year of manufacture?=0A=0APerhaps I should just leave=
 well enough alone?=0A=0ABob Spruck=0ASharpsburg, GA =0A=0A'72 Midget=0A'67=
 Midget Vintage Racer=0AMaybe a '59 or '61 Bugeye=0A=0A =0A----------------=
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ar=
ial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Should you be wary ab=
out anomalies such as this? &nbsp;If you had ever been the owner of a car s=
tolen from you then this would ring very loud warning bells.&nbsp;</span></=
div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial,=
 helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"=
><span>If the engine is meant to be original then look for the aluminium en=
gine number plate riveted on a horizontal platform towards the front of the=
 block. &nbsp;Has that gone missing as well? &nbsp;Then you go looking for =
paint colour oddities and because it is a 50 year old car there is guarante=
ed to be something.&nbsp;</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); fo=
nt-size: 16px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: norma=
l; background-color: transparent;"><span><br></span></div><div
 style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial, helveti=
ca, sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>T=
here can be 1001 good, honest reasons for the oddities with this motor but =
will you be thinking, in the back of your mind, that this was someone's pri=
de and joy before it was taken and changed into what is seen before me. &nb=
sp;If you don't get it then some else will and does your inner voice say, '=
Its a 50 odd year old car, there are bound to be some faults', or does it s=
ay, 'This car isn't right, stay well clear'.</span></div><div style=3D"colo=
r: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif=
; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span><br></span></di=
v><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial, h=
elvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><=
span>Identifying plates do not normally fall off on their own and my 45
 year old Sprite has them where they should be. &nbsp;It is not just the an=
omaly in the number it is the reason the anomaly has arisen that should be =
looked into.</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px=
; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; background=
-color: transparent;"><span><br></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0,=
 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style=
: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>Sorry to be so negative but=
 as an owner who has had cars taken (yes, plural) it does bring things to t=
he fore again.</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16=
px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; backgrou=
nd-color: transparent;"><span><br></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, =
0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-sty=
le: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span><br></span></div><div
 style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial, helveti=
ca, sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>G=
uy R Day&nbsp;</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16=
px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; backgrou=
nd-color: transparent;"><span><br></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, =
0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-sty=
le: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span><br></span></div><div sty=
le=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span><br><=
/span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family=
: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: trans=
parent;"><span><br></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-siz=
e: 16px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal;
 background-color: transparent;"><span><br></span></div><div><br></div>  <d=
iv style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <=
div style=3D"font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font=
-size: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <hr size=3D"1">  <font size=3D"2" face=3D"=
Arial"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Bob Spruck vi=
a Spridgets &lt;spridgets@autox.team.net&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-wei=
ght: bold;">To:</span></b> Spridget list &lt;Spridgets@autox.team.net&gt; <=
br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 24 Marc=
h 2015, 1:30<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> =
[Spridgets] VIN number issue<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_contain=
er"><br><div id=3D"yiv3585207165">=0A  =0A=0A    =0A  =0A  <div>=0A    <fon=
t size=3D"+1"><font face=3D"Arial">On a Bugeye I am interested in, I=0A    =
    have discovered an apparent anomaly in the year and VIN. The car=0A    =
    has no VIN plate but is considered to be a 1961 Mk1 and has been=0A    =
    registered in two states as such. However, the VIN is listed on=0A     =
   both registrations as AN5L xxxx. Since they made, what, 59,000=0A       =
 Bugeyes and ended in 1961, a car considered a '61 should have a=0A        =
five digit number, somewhere approaching 59,000. If the four=0A        digi=
t number is correct, it should be, I expect, maybe a '59. <br>=0A        <b=
r>=0A        Is there any other place that the VIN appears? Or any other wa=
y=0A        of determining the true VIN number or true year of manufacture?=
<br>=0A        <br>=0A        Perhaps I should just leave well enough alone=
?<br>=0A        <br>=0A        Bob Spruck<br>=0A        Sharpsburg, GA <br>=
=0A        <br>=0A        '72 Midget<br>=0A        '67 Midget Vintage Racer=
<br>=0A        Maybe a '59 or '61 Bugeye<br>=0A        <br>=0A      </font>=
</font>=0A  </div>=0A=0A</div><br>------------------------<br><br><a ymailt=
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