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Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Re: Go fast engine compression

To: Weslake1330 <weslake1330@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Re: Go fast engine compression help
From: Lester via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2020 18:59:53 -0500
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Ok, that does make sense.  Maybe I should ask what a stock 1275 measure =
and work from there.

Thanks,

Lester


> On Jun 20, 2020, at 1:35 PM, Weslake1330 <weslake1330@gmail.com> =
wrote:
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> If you don't know what the static compression ratio the engine was =
built with is, then I don't see how you can know if any given reading is =
bad.  If your engine was built with a CR of 7:1 then a reading of 150 is =
probably great.  However, if the engine was built with a CR of 11:1 then =
a reading of 150 might be disappointing
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> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 at 16:46, Lester Ewing via Spridgets =
> Colin,
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> Thanks, I am NOT trying to calculate compression ratio.  I just want a =
rough number.  Is 6 bad is 200 great?  I am inly trying to get a rough =
idea if the compression number I have is reasonable for the engine I =
have.  Between 135 and 150 is what I want to know.
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> Lester
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>> On Jun 15, 2020, at 4:36 PM, Colin Dodds <colin@spriteparts.com.au =
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>> Sorry Lester, but Steve=E2=80=99s previous answer was correct =E2=80=93=
 there are too many variables.  How good is the battery, how good is the =
starter motor, what=E2=80=99s the tappet gap?  The compression ratio =
should be calculated by measuring bore and head volumes before the =
engine is assembled.  It=E2=80=99s impossible to gauge engine =
compression from a gauge down the plug hole.  All that=E2=80=99s going =
to tell you is that they=E2=80=99re all close to the same, which is a =
good thing.  With your engine specs, I would expect the compression =
gauge to read between 135 and 150.
>> =20
>> avagoodday
>> Colin
>> www.SpriteParts.com.au <http://www.spriteparts.com.au/>
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>> Sent: Tuesday, 16 June 2020 1:12 AM
>> To: Weslake1330
>> Cc: Spridgets; [bugeye]; Yahoo Spridget list
>> Subject: Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Re: [Spridgets] Go fast engine =
compression help
>> =20
>>  =20
>> Well let me put it this way, on a new engine with a street cam is =
135psi  a good number?  Or should it be closer to 150psi?
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>> Lester
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>> On Jun 15, 2020, at 2:53 AM, Weslake1330 <weslake1330@gmail.com =
>> =20
>> In part it will depend on what compression ratio was used in the =
first place - 9 to 1 or 10.5 to 1 or whatever?
>> =20
>> On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 01:16, Lester Ewing via Spridgets =
>>>=20
>>> hi guys,
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>>> With a newly rebuilt 1380 what compression numbers should I expect?
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>>> Thanks,
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>>> Lester
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Ok, that does make sense. &nbsp;Maybe I should ask what a =
stock 1275 measure and work from there.<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Thanks,</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Lester</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jun 20, 2020, at 1:35 PM, =
Weslake1330 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:weslake1330@gmail.com"; =
class=3D"">weslake1330@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"">If you don't know what the static compression ratio the =
engine was built with is, then I don't see how you can know if any given =
reading is bad.&nbsp; If your engine was built with a CR of 7:1 then a =
reading of 150 is probably great.&nbsp; However, if the engine was built =
with a CR of 11:1 then a reading of 150 might be disappointing</div><br =
class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 at 16:46, Lester Ewing via =
Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"overflow-wrap: =
break-word;" class=3D"">Colin,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Thanks, I am NOT trying to calculate compression ratio.&nbsp; =
I just want a rough number.&nbsp; Is 6 bad is 200 great?&nbsp; I am inly =
trying to get a rough idea if the compression number I have is =
reasonable for the engine I have.&nbsp; Between 135 and 150 is what I =
want to know.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Lester</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jun 15, 2020, at 4:36 PM, Colin Dodds =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:colin@spriteparts.com.au"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">colin@spriteparts.com.au</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-varia=
nt-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;t=
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kground-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;" =
class=3D""><font size=3D"2" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial" class=3D""><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy" class=3D"">Sorry =
Lester, but Steve=E2=80=99s previous answer was correct =E2=80=93 there =
are too many variables.&nbsp; How good is the battery, how good is the =
starter motor, what=E2=80=99s the tappet gap?&nbsp; The compression =
ratio should be calculated by measuring bore and head volumes before the =
engine is assembled.&nbsp; It=E2=80=99s impossible to gauge engine =
compression from a gauge down the plug hole.&nbsp; All that=E2=80=99s =
going to tell you is that they=E2=80=99re all close to the same, which =
is a good thing.&nbsp; With your engine specs, I would expect the =
compression gauge to read between 135 and 150.<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;" =
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class=3D"">&nbsp;</span>Spridgets; [bugeye]; Yahoo Spridget list<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D""><span style=3D"font-weight:bold" =
class=3D"">Subject:</span></b><span class=3D"">&nbsp;</span>Bugeye/Frogeye=
 Club..... Re: [Spridgets] Go fast engine compression =
help</span></font><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></div></div><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm =
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class=3D""><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:12pt" class=3D"">&nbsp;<span class=3D"">&nbsp;</span><u=
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face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D"line-height:1.22em" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"line-height:1.22em;font-size:12pt" class=3D"">Well let me put =
it this way, on a new engine with a street cam is 135psi &nbsp;a good =
number?&nbsp; Or should it be closer to 150psi?<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></font></p><div style=3D"line-height:1.22em" =
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at 2:53 AM, Weslake1330 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:weslake1330@gmail.com"; =
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