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Re: IMHO

To: tigers@Autox.Team.Net, nicholsj@oakwood.org
Subject: Re: IMHO
From: LeBrun@hii.hitachi.com
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 97 11:33:00 PST
     In one of Tom's earlier messages, he mentioned the fact that STOA & 
     the TAC program is making efforts to train inspectors/certify cars in 
     other parts of the country. He and the others also spend considerable 
     amounts of their FREE TIME and out-of-pocket money to TAC TIGERS 
     outside of the Bay Area. They have flown to L.A. and to last year's 
     TE/AE meet in Florida, with NO re-imbursement for their expenses.
     
     This is done to preserve the value of your hobby. The TAC process is 
     strictly a go/no-go set of individual items, that taken wholly or in 
     part nets a car a TAC sticker & certification or not.
     
     Stop the emotionalism about the snobbery, elitism, seniority and all 
     the other B.S. Why? Because they've paid the dues, put in the time, 
     and it's run the way it should be. Period.
     
     As an aside, but relevant, I passed the GMAT and went to grad school. 
     T.S. to someone who hires in later, hasn't put in the effort and gets 
     paid less and whines about not being in a "senior" position and how 
     much less they make than me. TAC INSPECTORS deserve the same 
     consideration. Life's unequal. So is the playing field. Don't TEAR 
     PEOPLE DOWN to your level. Instead RISE up to where you want to be.
     What's the expression, "run with the big dogs or stay on the porch".
     
     Suing the seller also shows me that again, you forego responsibilty 
     for your own actions because you, for whatever reason, didn't do your 
     homework thoroughly enough. Hey, guess what? All used cars are sold 
     "as-is", with no warranty, explicit or implied. Go ahead and sue. I've 
     used the UCC for the last 20 years, been to court as a witness for 
     disputes between sellers and buyers on the corporate level. Guess 
     what? The judge has always looked real THOROUGHLY at due-diligence of 
     the buyer. 
     
     -I bought a TIGER that had been wrecked, said so in the "Book of 
     Norman" and was not fixed 100% properly. Who's "fault? MINE. Do I ever 
     think about suiing the PO? ABSOLUTELY NOT. Instead, I'll fix the car 
     the way it should be, and move on in life.A TIGER is real whether it's 
     TAC'd or not. TAC-ing it just a way some very knowledgeable and 
     unselfish folks have pooled their knowledge to agree on the fact it 
     came down Jensen's assembly line as a TIGER.
     
     
                             Phil LeBrun


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Subject: IMHO
Author:  nicholsj@oakwood.org at ~INTERNET
Date:    3/21/97 1:22 PM


     
       After reading all the e-mails about TAC, I never realized that this 
     was such a sensitive subject.  The first I heard of it was through 
     this list. My opinion is that a program to roote (there I go again) 
     out bogus Sunbeam Tigers is worthwhile.  What that program should be,  
     I am not sure.  My experience with Tigers is very limited when 
     compared to Tom Hall, Curt Meinel, Norm Miller and the rest.  I bought 
     mine a little over two years ago and it appears that I got the real 
     thing.  But then again, mine doesn't have a TAC sticker on it either.  
       The current program almost gives the impression of elitism or 
     snobbery. Methodology is secret, inspectors have to pass an oral and 
     written exam, localized mostly on the west coast, senior ranking 
     within inspectors.  A Tiger is not real unless someone from TAC 
     certifies it as real. And if it is certified as real, then more $$$ 
     can be asked for it when sold.  This doesn't give a good impression.  
     It assumes everything is bogus unless a TAC inspector says it is not. 
      What is needed is a national program where prospective buyers have 
     some resource to  go for advice before they lay out cash for a Tiger. 
     Forewarned is forearmed.  Getting your Tiger certified after you buy 
     it is like closing the barn door after the horse got away. If you get 
     screwed by an unscrupulous seller what recourse do you have other than 
     suing?  When a buyer can check some database and determine if the car 
     he is buying was built on the Jensen assembly line instead of a 
     yahoo's garage, then you have done a service for the unknowing. 
     
     
     Jeff
     


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