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Go Silicone!

To: "Larry Paulick" <larry.p@erols.com>
Subject: Go Silicone!
From: "Jan Sven-Erik Harde" <harde@cyberesc.net>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 14:50:53 -0800
I AGREE 100 %, and I have been using Silicone fluid in my P1800's, then the
Tigers, and now in my Mini Coopers, the pedal is ALWAYS stiff (STIFF IS
GOOD) and NEVER any problems at all. And when the cars are NOT driven daily,
or exposed like you say to ANY moisture at ALL, regular brake juice SUCKS
big time...
All the B.S. talk about swelling seals and such is all BUNK, as my usage
goes back to the early 80's with then Redline racing fluid..
Best of all, if you spill some on the paint, it makes a wonderful wax
substitute, you can not say that about regular brake juice !!!!


Have a GREAT weekend all,

Jan Harde...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Paulick" <larry.p@erols.com>
To: <twojohnsons@home.com>
Cc: "Rose, Mark G" <mrose@ou.edu>; <tigers@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: Go Silicone!


> AL good explanation of silicone brake fluid.  There are a couple of
> other items.  Using silicone will not preclude water/moisture getting
> into the system, and other groups have reported that the brake line
> rusted from within at the lowest point where the water settled, as it is
> heavier.  I don't know this for a fact, but have read it in resto books.
>  Maybe they left it out in the rain.
>
> Second, if you don't get All the old fluid out, then you will get a soft
> pedal.  I experienced this in a Vette, when I changed to silicone, with
> the new SS front brake caliber's.  So if you do change, get all of it
> out, whatever you use when you change fluid types.
>
> There are advantages to silicone that are real, and beneficial, as you
> have mentioned.
>
> Larry
>
> twojohnsons@home.com wrote:
> >
> > This is going to revive an old debate. Here's my 2 cents.
> > When Tiger Tom rebuilt my servo 15 years ago, he said he would warrantee
it
> > only IF I converted to silicone. Said the water picked up by the Girling
> > ultimately rotted the bores in the servo. That's why many if not most
servos
> > are no longer rebuildable w/o sleeving. Silicone is kind to seals &
doesn't
> > absorb water. The servo is still perfect after all these years. So in my
> > experience, the advice you got is wrong on both counts---silicone does
not
> > "slip by" and DOT fluid is not the best way to go. Silicone will leak
easier
> > than standard brake fluid, but if it leaks, your rebuilder didn't do the
job
> > right in the first place. I think it's absolutely the best for a
collector car
> > that isn't driven a lot & sits around much of the time. In these
conditions,
> > you can count on leaky system if you use regular DOT fluid. I replaced
seals
> > regularly.
> > You will also hear people say the pedal feels less firm---just another
Urban
> > legend.
> > Al J.

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