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Subject: [Tigers] Nano cars
From: "William Lau" <mrlau@charter.net>
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:47:47 -0500
What about emission control.  When the cars changed in about 1973 , mainly
because of no more leaded fuel, the mileage went down considerably.  This
was probably due mostly to low compression necessary because of low octane
fuels available at that time.  Now gasoline has alcohol to improve octane
but alcohol has much less energy per quantity so all of these things
together and there goes fuel mileage.  I remember many people asking in the
70's what good it was to improve the emissions 5% if the mileage was cut in
half.-- Bill

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces+mrlau=charter.net@autox.team.net
[mailto:tigers-bounces+mrlau=charter.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Smit,
Theo
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 2:19 PM
To: zymmer4@yahoo.com; Thomas Witt
Cc: tiger list
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Nano cars

I'm going to guess that none of the three cars under discussion had:
-Power steering
-Power door locks
-Power windows
-Air conditioning
-air bags
-plastic covering every piece of interior metal
-an inch of sound deadener over every piece of the interior

On the other hand, they had small-ish brakes and wheels/tires, and a
driveline that was appropriately sized for the power levels used in the
car.
And they each weighed well under a ton.
Most likely, they were not driven at much over 60 MPH very often either,
so the inertia would have played a large factor in the mileage achieved.
The problem is that the target buyer for the big automakers these days
expects all of the comfort features, and the automakers know where their
bread is buttered.

Theo

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From: tigers-bounces+theo.smit=dynastream.com@autox.team.net
[mailto:tigers-bounces+theo.smit=dynastream.com@autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Howard gentry
Sent: June 19, 2008 12:29 PM
To: Thomas Witt
Cc: tiger list
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Nano cars

hi,
<snip>
     If England could do economical cars in the past, Why the hell can't
the worlds' auto makers do it now??
     Just a question I have been chewing on.
Howard
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