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Re: [Tigers] Ebay Madness - Ron Davis Radiator ends...

To: "Cullen McCann" <cmccann@lwpb.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ebay Madness - Ron Davis Radiator ends...
From: "Owain Lloyd" <owain.lloyd@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 14:47:16 +0100
come on 'fes up.  who was the winning bidder?

On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Cullen McCann <cmccann@lwpb.com> wrote:
> It took me a few days to digest this last comment, and I've decided you are
> correct, that it would be also inappropriate to ask the seller to sell the
> item outside of ebay under typical circumstances. In fact, ebay rules dictate
> that this not be done. There is however another scenario that is similar that
> is in my opinion approaching legitimate. According to ebay standards, rules
> and regulations, the seller can change his opening bidding price, the buy it
> now price, add a buy it now price or change the format of his auction ( i.e. a
> buy it now type, best offer type, auction type...etc.) all before the first
> bid is made on the item. Ebay actually allows people to end auctions early if
> the item is for sale locally...the problem is that people use that as a
> keyword or implied term most of the time to welcome outside offers. But if you
> are selling a car on a street corner, and running in the auction, it actually
> is truly appropriate to end the auction according to ebay....all except the
> last 24 hours of the auction, then that option is revoked.
>
> When I offered to buy the radiator, it was before any bids had been made, and
> the seller told me he would lower the buy it now price and I would have the
> opportunity to purchase it legitimately at that time. The only questionable
> element to this process would be me contacting him about the offer, but then
> again, ebay has provisions to ask the seller questions about item description,
> how to pay, when to pay, how to ship, shipping costs, etc....specifically. So
> not to justify this but I feel there are some grey areas to this concept.
> Point is, before any other bids have been made, there are not near as many
> rules as after the first bid is made....and those same rules change again,
> when the auction nears its ending.
>
> BTW, the radiator sold for 635.00...+ shipping. That's a hundred bucks over
> the cost of a new one. I think we saw this coming, and personally I feel sorry
> for the poor sap that couldn't stop hitting the bid button when the deal no
> longer became advantageous.
>
>
> Cullen
>
>
>
>
> I guess you also have to look at the fact that you are doing the wrong thing
> too. If it doesnt have a buy it now price and you try and buy it outside the
> auction you and the seller are both i nthe wrong.
>
> As for new stff selling for more than its cost.. the traction master cars are
> my favourite, i thin the sellers name is hjimports55 or some such.. sells
> "original" traction masters with an opening bid of $175, i have seen these go
> on his auctions for 3-400+... he is buying them from traction master in USA
> for 175+35 shipping!
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