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Re: [Tigers] Mid West Mustangers car show

To: "Tony Somebody" <achd73@yahoo.com>, "michael king"
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mid West Mustangers car show
From: "spook01" <spook01@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 08:01:35 -0500
hi guys,
tony is correct.  and, just to put a little more interest in, here's a 
little history:
I had dinner with ian garrard years ago at the first tiger meet in vail, co. 
and asked him about shelby's role.
he told me shelby's role was merely that he had prepared a prototype from 
parts given to him.  since he was present at the time, i took him at his 
word.
so.
be satisfied with what you have, a unique auto, and forget about trying to 
cash in on the shelby cobra-mustang (early and late)-dodgeshelbydaytona 
four- banger bucks.
cs would no doubt be happy to claim rock invention if he could squeeze money 
out of them!  he's now in the cobra kit car business after years of dumping 
on the phenom.
our automotive gods have clay feet, too.
Ray

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony Somebody" <achd73@yahoo.com>
To: "michael king" <michael.s.king@gmail.com>
Cc: "Beamclub" <tigers@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mid West Mustangers car show


>I have absolutely no proof, other than a gut feeling BUT the 289 was 
>available
> for fitment in the first Tigers. My gut tells me CS had a part in helping
> Rootes get 260 engines from Ford. he had to be aware the Tiger was going 
> to be
> a serious contender for outrunniing the first Cobras that also received 
> power
> from a 260 engine.I have no opinion of what claim we have to Mr. shelby,
> especially calling the Tiger a shelby Tiger- it just didnt exist. I have
> attended Shelby events at the Brown cnty.anual Shelby event. His name is 
> not
> on our cars but we are set aside with our own group at the event and we 
> are
> accepted by them or we acceppt them if you will.
> At one time I thought that some of the shelby tiger parts might also be 
> used
> on the Cobra but it is evident now that sellers are just using shelby to 
> put
> the parts on more screens and if the Cobra used the same part as a tiger 
> it
> was very few. If we could lay claim to being a real member of the Shelby
> family it could only increase the value of our cars BUT I only see the 
> bastard
> stepson relationship. Im sure when ask that CS is happy to claim the Tiger 
> but
> Im not sure it is a valid claim.
> TtT
> --- On Mon, 6/1/09, michael king <michael.s.king@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: michael king <michael.s.king@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mid West Mustangers car show
>> To: "Samouce's" <wsamouce@kc.rr.com>
>> Cc: Tigers@autox.team.net
>> Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 7:51 PM
>> Sorry Duke,
>>
>>
>>
>> i have to side with the guys who said "no" to having you in
>> the Shelby
>> class.. same issue i have with people putting "Shelby" on
>> their parts on
>> ebay.. he was involved in the prototype and in an early
>> racing example... he
>> doesn't really have much to do with the production cars and
>> pushing the
>> point makes you look like a Shelby want to be... enjoy the
>> car for what it
>> is,, not some tenuous link to some guy who hot rodded other
>> peoples
>> creations. there was never a "Shelby tiger" except for the
>> yellow racer he
>> ran.. even the prototype was a Shelby alpine...
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyway.. how much of the Shelby stuff actually ended up on
>> the car rootes
>> made their own steering, kept alpine brakes.. used a
>> different rear end to
>> the Shelby car etc... Let the mustang guys think what they
>> want with their
>> 2009 sepc cars.. they do legitimately have SHELBY on the
>> title.. Which
>> essentially equates to paying ol' Carroll a royalty for
>> that privilege..
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>>
>> Michael King
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