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Re: [Tigers] Risky Business

To: Tom Hall <modtiger@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Risky Business
From: MAURO D'ANGELO <m_dangelo@verizon.net>
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 18:36:05 -0400
...at least any more than other classic cars.  (further to my previous
email)


On 4/16/10 6:23 PM, "MAURO D'ANGELO" <m_dangelo@verizon.net> wrote:

> Tom, 
> 
> First of all, I would like for you to know that I was not singling you out at
> all.  I also was not saying that those with experience should not let people
> know where the car's shortcomings are.  I used to be the fleet manager of an
> airline (years ago), so I happen to be highly attuned to the notion of safety
> and preventive maintenance. What I am saying is quite simple:  I do not think
> it is at all helpful to scare people with stories of getting their feet buzz
> sawed off by their flywheels -- unless you specify that you are talking about
> cars that are being raced.  My point -- and I really do not think you can
> argue with me on it -- is that for the most part, cars being driven on the
> street are probably not candidates for self destruction.  Thank you.  Mauro
> 
> 
> On 4/16/10 1:00 PM, "Tom Hall" <modtiger@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> At 07:21 AM 4/16/2010, you wrote:
>>> ... I'm truly surprised that all you engineers do not understand how
>>> damaging this is to the reputation of this car.
>>> 
>>> ... What's more surprising is that no one is saying that these
>>> problems are not only tied to our cool Tigers, but to all or most
>>> classic cars of the era, to include Cobras and other highly sought
>>> muscle cars.  But go to a Mustang or Cobra forum and you won't find
>>> these dire warnings of impending doom.  Let's try to at least put
>>> strong caveats above our warnings.  Right?
>>> 
>>> Mauro
>> 
>> Let me get this straight,  You think it's advisable, to advance the
>> reputation of the marque, that those of us with historic
>> understanding of certain design limitations and or possible
>> shortcomings, should remain silent on these subjects.  I think that
>> Toyota is currently proving that this direction is not the best
>> alternative.  Most of us "engineers" have recognized and discussed
>> these risk situations and are advising that mitigating them requires
>> some action on the part of owners that for the most part, request the
>> help and advice from the list.
>> 
>> Relative "Risk" is a very personal interpretation.  If you ask for
>> advise and I scare you with stories of component failure, and you buy
>> my Chassis Reinforcement Kit to strengthen your frame, or you direct
>> your restoration to replace components that have been historically
>> subject to cyclic fatigue failures, have I helped you or hurt you?
>> 
>> Do you smoke?  Can you believe that anyone, given the state of
>> knowledge of that risk, would ever even consider smoking?  How do
>> they even manage to sell cigarettes?
>> 
>> As a Professional Engineer, I consider that advising fellow Tiger
>> owners of risk factors that I have historical, direct or even
>> peripheral and specific knowledge of, to be my social
>> responsibility.  Same goes for "authenticity".  If my TAC activities
>> keep you from buying a car that was not manufactured as a Tiger by
>> Rootes, I'm also reducing your risk factor, even if it is simply
>> financial.  You have to judge your own level of acceptable
>> risk.  Asking other to remain silent or severely muted, is not really
>> helpful in my opinion.  Anyone driving a 40 year old car has a much
>> different perspective on driving safety than the general
>> public.  Most of the contributors on this list are simply trying to
>> share their enjoyment and help others enjoy their Tigers to the
>> fullest while acknowledging certain common problems.
>> 
>> 
>> Tom Hall
>> ModTiger Engineering LLC
>> www.tigerengineering.net
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