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Re: [Tigers] Oil Pressure

To: Dave Munroe <dave@munroe.ca>, Tom Parker <tkparker1941@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Oil Pressure
From: "Teepen, Jere" <jteepen@usatoday.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 21:05:03 -0400
Dave:

You mention in the original message below that the hoses for the oil filter
were changed to "large diameter" hoses.  How large?  I have no experience with
altering the hose diameter in an automotive application, but I do know that a
larger diameter water pipe system will reduce the overall pressure in the
system.  Years ago a friend of mine re-plumbed his house with 3/4" copper pipe
versus 1/2" pipe.  The result?  Poor water pressure.  Not sure this applies to
oil..

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Dave Munroe
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 10:53 AM
To: Tom Parker
Cc: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Oil Pressure

Tom; Jerry:

I haven't checked the gauge, which I should have done, and will, as soon as I
can get hold of a good quality gauge.

I plan to hook it up at the block fitting of the remote set-up. There are a
couple of ports there that have allen key plugs in them.

Thanks,

Dave


----- Original Message -----
  From: Tom Parker
  To: Dave Munroe
  Cc: tigers@autox.team.net
  Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 1:45 PM
  Subject: Re: [Tigers] Oil Pressure


  From the earlier post today we can assume oil pressure on a 260 / 289
should
be between @ 30 - 60 lbs. from the factory.

  The remote filter shouldn't reduce the pressure unless there's a leak. (He
said, not really knowing...)

  So... the obvious question: have you checked your gauge? You implied the
shop used their gauge and a transducer.

  Tom


  On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Dave Munroe <dave@munroe.ca> wrote:

    Ok guys, the mystery continues.

    I have sought advice here about oil pressure and we have discussed this
before. But now more intelligence has been gathered.

    My engine was built by a well meaning but as it turns out, inexperienced
Brit mechanic in 2005. Amongst more serious problems,
    my engine's oil pressure also was below what I have come to believe is
"normal" pressure for a fresh, quality re-build.(50 to 55 psi cold, 40 to 50
psi hot with 10-30W oil). I was tired of, and concerned with, the O.P. gauge
showing the needle far to far to the left of center.

    I had my engine removed and "blue-printed" by a knowledgeable and highly
regarded local shop. They found and corrected the other, more serious
problems, and when reassembled, put it on their shop dyno. During the rebuild
they installed a new, standard oil pump on the recommendation of many on this
list who responded to my earlier inquiries, to replace the high volume pump
that I had installed in the first re-build.They also installed a large filter
directly on the block for the several pulls the engine went through on the
dyno. They had hooked-up a mechanical oil pressure guage and a transducer
that
fed into their diagnostic computer. My engine was showing 70 psi at 1500 rpm,
and it rose to 75 at 5500 rpm (redline).

    Back in the car with the remote oil filter set-up, with new, large
diameter hoses fitted, it shows 45 psi cold, and 25-30 hot at 3,000 to 4,000
rpm. I am at a loss to understand how the remote filter set-up could possibly
cause this drop in indicated pressure. The only other variable is my pressure
gauge, which is nothing if not consistent.

    I will appreciate any wisdom or suggestions as to what is going on and
how
to correct this low pressure problem.

    Thanks for your help,

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