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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Interesting carburetor Observation
From: Jay Laifman via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 10:15:49 -0700
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Cool!  Add a bung and spark plug near the end of the exhaust pipe and we
can be shooting out flames!!!!

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 6:51 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net
> wrote:

> That seems like a fire waiting to happen.
>
> I would rather have the vapors sucked into the exhaust but there are
> major challenges with that system too.
>
> Ron Fraser
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* michael king [mailto:michael.s.king@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 03, 2015 9:38 AM
> *To:* Ron Fraser
> *Cc:* Stu; Tiger Talk List Tiger
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Interesting carburetor Observation
>
> Early alpines have an overflow pipe that drops the fuel leftover in the
> manifold onto the headers to vaporise off.... I kid you not!!!
> On 3 Sep 2015 23:34, "Ron Fraser via Tigers" <tigers@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Stu
>>     This is an interesting idea that needs some careful thought and
>> investigation but I see a problem with where do you safely vent the fuel
>> vapors and fuel.
>>
>> The best place would be back to the fuel tanks but I don't think there is
>> enough pressure to do that correctly.
>>
>> A charcoal canister might work but I'm not sure it can take more than
>> fuel vapors plus it has to be vented properly to recycle the vapors.
>>
>> The best solution would be TBI which does have the correct system for
>> fuel return to the tanks.
>>
>> Ron Fraser
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> *From:* Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Stu
>> via Tigers
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:19 PM
>> *To:* Tiger Net
>> *Subject:* [Tigers] Interesting carburetor Observation
>>
>> As I cruised around a few web sites to scare up a rebuild kit for my
>> stock two barrel, I came across some interesting pictures.   The stock 2
>> barrel carb is from the "2100" family.  The slightly later but related 2150
>> family has a significant difference.
>>
>> I'm suspecting that for one reason or another, fuel came out of the vent
>> on the top of the fuel bowl, boiling, leaky valve, or whatever, and this is
>> what fueled my recent fire.  The 2150, instead of just having an open vent
>> hole, has a little fitting that was apparently designed to accept a hose,
>> perhaps to drain any overflow to a safe location.
>>
>> So I'm looking for an extremely low profile right angle fitting...  I'm
>> thinking aquarium hose size...  That will fit under the stock air cleaner...
>>
>> Any other ideas out there?
>>
>> Stu
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Cool!=C2=A0 Add a bung and spark plug near the end of the =
exhaust pipe and we can be shooting out flames!!!!</div><div class=3D"gmail=
_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 6:51 AM, Ron =
Fraser via Tigers <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team=
.net" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>





<div>
<div><span><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">That=20
seems like a fire waiting to happen.</font></span></div>
<div><span><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font></span>=
=C2=A0</div>
<div><span><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">I=20
would rather have the vapors sucked into the exhaust but there are=20
major=C2=A0challenges with that system too.</font></span></div>
<div><span><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font></span>=
=C2=A0</div>
<div><span><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Ron=20
Fraser</font></span></div>
<blockquote style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT:0px" dir=3D"ltr">
  <div></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr" lang=3D"en-us" align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"T=
ahoma">-----Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b> michael king=20
  [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:michael.s.king@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">mic=
hael.s.king@gmail.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 03,=20
  2015 9:38 AM<br><b>To:</b> Ron Fraser<br><b>Cc:</b> Stu; Tiger Talk List=
=20
  Tiger<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Interesting carburetor=20
  Observation<br><br></font></div>
  <p dir=3D"ltr">Early alpines have an overflow pipe that drops the fuel le=
ftover in=20
  the manifold onto the headers to vaporise off.... I kid you not!!!</p>
  <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 3 Sep 2015 23:34, &quot;Ron Fraser via Tige=
rs&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">tig=
ers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution">
  <blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;=
PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote"><u></u>
    <div>
    <div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>Stu </span=
></font></div>
    <div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 This is=20
    an interesting idea that=C2=A0needs some careful thought and=20
    investigation=C2=A0but I see a problem with where do=20
    you=C2=A0safely=C2=A0vent the fuel vapors and fuel.</span></font></div>
    <div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></f=
ont>=C2=A0</div>
    <div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>The best p=
lace would be=20
    back to the fuel tanks but I don&#39;t think there is enough pressure t=
o do that=20
    correctly.</span></font></div>
    <div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></f=
ont>=C2=A0</div>
    <div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>A charcoal=
 canister might=20
    work but I&#39;m not sure it can take more than fuel vapors plus it has=
 to be=20
    vented properly to recycle the vapors.</span></font></div>
    <div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></f=
ont>=C2=A0</div>
    <div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>The best s=
olution would be=20
    TBI which does have the correct system for fuel return to the=20
    tanks.</span></font></div>
    <div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></f=
ont>=C2=A0</div>
    <div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>Ron=20
    Fraser</span></font></div>
    <blockquote style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT:0px" dir=3D"ltr">
      <div></div>
      <div dir=3D"ltr" lang=3D"en-us" align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2" face=
=3D"Tahoma">-----Original=20
      Message-----<br><b>From:</b> Tigers [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-=
bounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>=
] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stu=20
      via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:19=20
      PM<br><b>To:</b> Tiger Net<br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Interesting=20
      carburetor Observation<br><br></font></div>
      <div dir=3D"ltr">
      <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small" class=3D"gmail_default">As I cruised a=
round a=20
      few web sites to scare up a rebuild kit for my stock two barrel, I ca=
me=20
      across some interesting pictures. =C2=A0 The stock 2 barrel carb is f=
rom=20
      the &quot;2100&quot; family.=C2=A0 The slightly later but related 215=
0 family has a=20
      significant difference.</div>
      <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div>
      <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small" class=3D"gmail_default">I&#39;m suspec=
ting that for=20
      one reason or another, fuel came out of the vent on the top of the fu=
el=20
      bowl, boiling, leaky valve, or whatever, and this is what fueled my r=
ecent=20
      fire.=C2=A0 The 2150, instead of just having an open vent hole, has a=
=20
      little fitting that was apparently designed to accept a hose, perhaps=
 to=20
      drain any overflow to a safe location.</div>
      <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div>
      <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small" class=3D"gmail_default">So I&#39;m loo=
king for an=20
      extremely low profile right angle fitting...=C2=A0 I&#39;m thinking a=
quarium=20
      hose size...=C2=A0 That will fit under the stock air cleaner...</div>
      <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div>
      <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small" class=3D"gmail_default">Any other idea=
s out=20
      there?</div>
      <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div>
      <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small" class=3D"gmail_default">Stu</div></div=
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