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Re: [Tigers] Dipstick and oil level report

To: rfraser@bluefrog.com, tigers@Autox.Team.Net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dipstick and oil level report
From: CoolVT--- via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 20:25:32 -0400
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Full-name: CoolVT
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Very good point, but my suspicion is that originally when 5 qts.  were put 
in along with a new filter that the dipstick probably read full.   But then 
again, this might have been true for a Ford engine in a Ford car.   But in a 
Tiger???  If the dip stick was originally way off, what did a  dealer tell 
a customer when the discrepancy came up?
Mark
 
 
In a message dated 10/21/2015 8:05:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
rfraser@bluefrog.com writes:

Mark
    The real question is -  what was stock?   
 
What was the original  stock Tiger engine angle?
 
Did a brand new Tiger read the correct oil  level back in the day?
 
My next experiment will be how much do I  need to jack up the front of my 
Tiger to obtain the correct dipstick  reading with 4 qts in the sump.
I just don't know when I will have time to  do that experiment.
 
Ron Fraser


-----Original Message-----
From: CoolVT@aol.com  [mailto:CoolVT@aol.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 6:45  PM
To: rfraser@bluefrog.com;  tigers@Autox.Team.Net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dipstick and oil level  report


That raises the question  what  can cause the engine  to tilt very far from 
stock.....missing the thick washers on the motor  mounts, worn motor 
mounts, incorrect (inferior) motor mounts,  using a  non standard or worn or 
broken tranny mount, ? Anything else?  Or a non  stock oil pan?
Mark L
 
 
In a message dated 10/21/2015 5:52:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
tigers@autox.team.net writes:

Update
 
With the oil pan level
10 qts - level is at the rear main seal lip  of the oil pan
 
Tilted 2 degrees down at front of engine - fluid  level to oil pick up 
screen relationship
 
1pt - level is below the dipstick - just getting  the oil pick up screen wet
1Qt -  level is about 1/8" on the dipstick -  covers about 2/3 of the oil 
pick up screen
3pt - level is about 1/4" on the dipstick -  covers about 3/4 of the screen
2Qt - level is about 1/8" below ADD line - oil  pick up screen assembly is 
just covered
5pt - level is about 1/16" above ADD line - oil  pick up screen assembly is 
covered
3Qt - level is about 1/16" above the Mid  Line
 
This indicates that if you have a similar engine  angle situation you 
better start think about an oil change if the  dipstick oil level read between 
the ADD line and the Mid line.  You  are at the 2 to 3 Qts oil in the sump.  
You definitely need an oil  add or change if the oil level reading is near 
the ADD line  meaning about 2 Qts oil in the sump.
 
Ron  Fraser


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<DIV><STRONG>Very good point, but my suspicion is that originally when 5=
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were put in along with a new filter that the dipstick probably read full.&=
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<DIV><STRONG>Mark</STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 10/21/2015 8:05:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20
rfraser@bluefrog.com writes:</DIV>
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D359535423-21102015>Mark</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D359535423-21102015>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The real questi=
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  &nbsp;what was stock?&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D359535423-21102015></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D359535423-21102015>What was the original=20
  stock&nbsp;Tiger&nbsp;engine angle?</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D359535423-21102015></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D359535423-21102015>Did a brand new Tiger read the cor=
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  level back in the day?</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D359535423-21102015></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D359535423-21102015>My next experiment will be how muc=
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  need to jack up&nbsp;the front of my&nbsp;Tiger to obtain the correct di=
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  reading with 4 qts in the sump.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D359535423-21102015>I just don't know when I will have=
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  do that experiment.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D359535423-21102015></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D359535423-21102015>Ron Fraser</SPAN></DIV>
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    face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> CoolVT@aol.co=
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    [mailto:CoolVT@aol.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 21, 2015=
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    PM<BR><B>To:</B> rfraser@bluefrog.com;=20
    tigers@Autox.Team.Net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Tigers] Dipstick and oil=
 level=20
    report<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D3 face=3DArial=
>
    <DIV><STRONG>That raises the question &nbsp;what&nbsp; can cause the=
 engine=20
    to tilt very far from stock.....missing the thick washers on the motor=
=20
    mounts, worn motor mounts, incorrect (inferior) motor mounts, &nbsp;us=
ing a=20
    non standard or worn or broken tranny mount, ? Anything else? &nbsp;Or=
 a non=20
    stock oil pan?</STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG>Mark L</STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV>In a message dated 10/21/2015 5:52:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=
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    tigers@autox.team.net writes:</DIV>
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      <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
      class=3D421100621-21102015>Update</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
      class=3D421100621-21102015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
      class=3D421100621-21102015>With the oil pan level</SPAN></FONT></DIV=
>
      <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
      class=3D421100621-21102015>10 qts -&nbsp;level is at the rear main=
 seal lip=20
      of the oil pan</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
      class=3D421100621-21102015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
      class=3D421100621-21102015>Tilted 2 degrees down at front of engine=
 - fluid=20
      level to oil pick up screen relationship</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
      class=3D421100621-21102015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
      class=3D421100621-21102015>1pt - level is below the dipstick - just=
 getting=20
      the oil pick up screen wet</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
      class=3D421100621-21102015>1Qt -&nbsp; level is about 1/8" on the di=
pstick -=20
      covers about 2/3 of the oil pick up screen</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
      class=3D421100621-21102015>3pt - level is about 1/4" on the dipstick=
 -=20
      covers about 3/4 of the screen</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
      class=3D421100621-21102015>2Qt - level is about 1/8" below ADD line=
 - oil=20
      pick up screen assembly is just covered</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
      class=3D421100621-21102015>5pt - level is about 1/16" above ADD line=
 - oil=20
      pick up screen assembly is covered</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
      class=3D421100621-21102015>3Qt - level is about 1/16" above the Mid=
=20
      Line</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
      class=3D421100621-21102015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
      class=3D421100621-21102015>This indicates that if you have a similar=
 engine=20
      angle&nbsp;situation you better start think about an oil change if=
 the=20
      dipstick oil level read between the ADD line and the Mid line.&nbsp;=
 You=20
      are at the 2 to 3 Qts oil in the sump.&nbsp; You definitely need an=
 oil=20
      add or change if the oil level reading is&nbsp;near the ADD line=20
      meaning&nbsp;about 2 Qts oil in the sump.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
      class=3D421100621-21102015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
      class=3D421100621-21102015>Ron=20
      Fraser</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR><BR>__________________________________=
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