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Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 7, Issue 390

To: "tigers@autox.team.net" <tigers@autox.team.net>, "rfraser@bluefrog.com" <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 7, Issue 390
From: Joel Martin via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 15:35:29 +0000 (UTC)
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Ron
These casting numbers do not match my pedals at all - casting number of 199=
0300 verses 1224677 - LHD1229806 for RHD.=C2=A0 Any ideas what 1990300 was =
suppose to fit?=C2=A0 Can you send me a photo of your pedals and the guesst=
imate of the space behind them to the firewall?=C2=A0 Anyone else have a op=
inion?
ThanksJoel Martin
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Today's Topics:

=C2=A0 1. Concern\Question - Front Drivers Seat Foot well space
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (Joel Martin)
=C2=A0 2. Re: Concern\Question - Front Drivers Seat Foot well space
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ( Ron Fraser)
=C2=A0 3. Re: Concern\Question - Front Drivers Seat Foot well space
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (Tom Parker)
Installed drivers seat today, and moved seat all the way to rear - comes ri=
ght up to rear shelf on slider - good. I am 6'0" tall.=C2=A0 Concern is the=
 amount of room between knees, stock steering wheel (15.3"), right knee to =
shift lever and the foot pedals.=C2=A0 With the clutch pushed in there is s=
till about 8" left to the firewall with about 11" from brake pedal and the =
accelerator pedals to the firewall.
Do we really have this much wasted foot well room from the end of the pedal=
s to the firewall?=C2=A0 The brake pedal and the accelerator pedal are abou=
t even in the foot well with the clutch about 1" further 'out' than the oth=
er 2.

Findings:=C2=A0 Both the brake and clutch pedal have the same casting numbe=
r of 1990300 but with different bends entirely.=C2=A0 This seams unusual.=
=C2=A0 The Clutch bends to the left with only 1 available hole connecting t=
o the pedal bracket.=C2=A0 The brake bends slightly to the right with 2 hol=
es available connecting to the pedal bracket.=C2=A0 Both brackets look to b=
e the same.

Spacers at the master cylinders:=C2=A0 brake master has spacer between mast=
er and firewall.=C2=A0 Clutch master does not have spacer due to brake rese=
rvoir slightly to one side closest to clutch reservoir, so no spacer or the=
 clutch master reservoir would contact brake master reservoir and would not=
 bolt up..
I see all this wasted foot well space and now wonder if I have the right pe=
dals, brackets etc for this car.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
RegardsJoel Martin



 MessageJoel=C2=A0Since these cars are both left & right hand drive capable=
; both side=C2=A0foot wells are similar and=C2=A0nearly symmetrical.=C2=A0T=
here is only 1 part # for the clutch and brake pedal - 1224677 - LHD1229806=
 for RHD=C2=A0They should have 1 hole for the pivot point and 2 holes for t=
he clutch or brake push rod.=C2=A0It is very common in manufacturing of ped=
als to have 1 part, the forged base part which is then struck again to make=
 different pedals.=C2=A0I found the foot well space behind the pedals to be=
 very handy when driving long distance in cruise control - room to stretch =
my legs.=C2=A0Ron Fraser=C2=A0=C2=A0
  -----Original Message-----
From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joel Marti=
n via Tigers
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 7:37 PM
To: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Concern\Question - Front Drivers Seat Foot well space

  Installed drivers seat today, and moved seat all the way to rear - comes =
right up to rear shelf on slider - good. I am 6'0" tall.=C2=A0 Concern is t=
he amount of room between knees, stock steering wheel (15.3"), right knee t=
o shift lever and the foot pedals.=C2=A0 With the clutch pushed in there is=
 still about 8" left to the firewall with about 11" from brake pedal and th=
e accelerator pedals to the firewall.=20
 Do we really have this much wasted foot well room from the end of the peda=
ls to the firewall?=C2=A0 The brake pedal and the accelerator pedal are abo=
ut even in the foot well with the clutch about 1" further 'out' than the ot=
her 2.
=20
 Findings:=C2=A0 Both the brake and clutch pedal have the same casting numb=
er of 1990300 but with different bends entirely.=C2=A0 This seams unusual.=
=C2=A0 The Clutch bends to the left with only 1 available hole connecting t=
o the pedal bracket.=C2=A0 The brake bends slightly to the right with 2 hol=
es available connecting to the pedal bracket.=C2=A0 Both brackets look to b=
e the same.
=20
 Spacers at the master cylinders:=C2=A0 brake master has spacer between mas=
ter and firewall.=C2=A0 Clutch master does not have spacer due to brake res=
ervoir slightly to one side closest to clutch reservoir, so no spacer or th=
e clutch master reservoir would contact brake master reservoir and would no=
t bolt up..=20
 I see all this wasted foot well space and now wonder if I have the right p=
edals, brackets etc for this car.=20
 Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.=20
 Regards Joel Martin
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=20
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Joel,
There doesn't seem to be much adjustment available for pedal height except =
the two holes on the foot pedal, which gains / costs you @ 1 1/2" of height=
 according to Section K of the Tiger Workshop Manual. If the goal is to hav=
e all 3 pedals' height the same that's the base line... whichever hole you =
choose, and adjust the throttle pedal height to match the brake and clutch =
height. I don't think the original brake and clutch rods were adjustable...=
 at least the diagram doesn't show it... but later / aftermarket cylinder p=
ushrods may have an adjustment there.=C2=A0
You're right, imo, the travel is far more than needed for full clutch / bra=
ke engagement, But with the Tiger tunnel mods it gets a bit tight the close=
r to the firewall the pedals get. I'm a little guy; the folks with big feet=
 will have issues the lower the pedals. As it is it's easy to hit the brake=
 and throttle at the same time until one gets used to the car.=C2=A0
Anything can be accomplished with a drill press, but stock height, sadly, a=
ppears to be fixed.
Tom'67 Mark 2
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.ne=
t> wrote:

Joel=C2=A0Since these cars are both left & right hand drive capable; both s=
ide=C2=A0foot wells are similar and=C2=A0nearly symmetrical.=C2=A0There is =
only 1 part # for the clutch and brake pedal - 1224677 - LHD1229806 for RHD=
=C2=A0They should have 1 hole for the pivot point and 2 holes for the clutc=
h or brake push rod.=C2=A0It is very common in manufacturing of pedals to h=
ave 1 part, the forged base part which is then struck again to make differe=
nt pedals.=C2=A0I found the foot well space behind the pedals to be very ha=
ndy when driving long distance in cruise control - room to stretch my legs.=
=C2=A0Ron Fraser=C2=A0=C2=A0
  -----Original Message-----
From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joel Marti=
n via Tigers
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 7:37 PM
To: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Concern\Question - Front Drivers Seat Foot well space

  Installed drivers seat today, and moved seat all the way to rear - comes =
right up to rear shelf on slider - good. I am 6'0" tall.=C2=A0 Concern is t=
he amount of room between knees, stock steering wheel (15.3"), right knee t=
o shift lever and the foot pedals.=C2=A0 With the clutch pushed in there is=
 still about 8" left to the firewall with about 11" from brake pedal and th=
e accelerator pedals to the firewall.=20
 Do we really have this much wasted foot well room from the end of the peda=
ls to the firewall?=C2=A0 The brake pedal and the accelerator pedal are abo=
ut even in the foot well with the clutch about 1" further 'out' than the ot=
her 2.
=20
 Findings:=C2=A0 Both the brake and clutch pedal have the same casting numb=
er of 1990300 but with different bends entirely.=C2=A0 This seams unusual.=
=C2=A0 The Clutch bends to the left with only 1 available hole connecting t=
o the pedal bracket.=C2=A0 The brake bends slightly to the right with 2 hol=
es available connecting to the pedal bracket.=C2=A0 Both brackets look to b=
e the same.
=20
 Spacers at the master cylinders:=C2=A0 brake master has spacer between mas=
ter and firewall.=C2=A0 Clutch master does not have spacer due to brake res=
ervoir slightly to one side closest to clutch reservoir, so no spacer or th=
e clutch master reservoir would contact brake master reservoir and would no=
t bolt up..=20
 I see all this wasted foot well space and now wonder if I have the right p=
edals, brackets etc for this car.=20
 Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.=20
 Regards Joel Martin
=20
=20
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ont-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px"><div id=3D"yui_=
3_16_0_1_1446650598350_4239">Ron</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350=
_4266" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_4401" di=
r=3D"ltr">These casting numbers do not match my pedals at all - casting num=
ber of 1990300 verses <font class=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_441=
4" face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144=
6650598350_4413" class=3D"">1224677 -=20
LHD</span></font>
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_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_4463" dir=3D"ltr"><font class=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0=
_1_1446650598350_4418" face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_4417" class=3D"">1229806 for RHD.&nbsp; Any =
ideas what 1990300 was suppose to fit?&nbsp; Can you send me a photo of you=
r pedals and the guesstimate of the space behind them to the firewall?&nbsp=
; Anyone else have a opinion?</span></font></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14=
46650598350_4600" dir=3D"ltr"><br><font class=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14466=
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3_16_0_1_1446650598350_4598" dir=3D"ltr"><font class=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_=
1_1446650598350_4418" face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_4417" class=3D"">Thanks</span></font></div><=
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=3D"2"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_4417" class=3D"">Joel Martin<=
br></span></font></div></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_4272"><s=
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ng, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Conte=
nts of Tigers digest..."<br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br>&nbsp;  1. Concern\Q=
uestion - Front Drivers Seat Foot well space<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (Joel =
Martin)<br>&nbsp;  2. Re: Concern\Question - Front Drivers Seat Foot well s=
pace<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ( Ron Fraser)<br>&nbsp;  3. Re: Concern\Questi=
on - Front Drivers Seat Foot well space<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (Tom Parker=
)<br><div id=3D"yiv5072557774"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_4339">=
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_4338" style=3D"color:#000;background-=
color:#fff;font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;"><d=
iv id=3D"yiv5072557774yui_3_16_0_1_1446595987547_6667" dir=3D"ltr">Installe=
d drivers seat today, and moved seat all the way to rear - comes right up t=
o rear shelf on slider - good. I am 6'0" tall.&nbsp; Concern is the amount =
of room between knees, stock steering wheel (15.3"), right knee to shift le=
ver and the foot pedals.&nbsp; With the clutch pushed in there is still abo=
ut 8" left to the firewall with about 11" from brake pedal and the accelera=
tor pedals to the firewall.</div><div id=3D"yiv5072557774yui_3_16_0_1_14465=
95987547_6668" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yiv5072557774yui_3_16_0_1_1=
446595987547_6673" dir=3D"ltr">Do we really have this much wasted foot well=
 room from the end of the pedals to the firewall?&nbsp; The brake pedal and=
 the accelerator pedal are about even in the foot well with the clutch abou=
t 1" further 'out' than the other 2.<br></div><div id=3D"yiv5072557774yui_3=
_16_0_1_1446595987547_6669" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yiv5072557774y=
ui_3_16_0_1_1446595987547_6670" dir=3D"ltr">Findings:&nbsp; Both the brake =
and clutch pedal have the same casting number of 1990300 but with different=
 bends entirely.&nbsp; This seams unusual.&nbsp; The Clutch bends to the le=
ft with only 1 available hole connecting to the pedal bracket.&nbsp; The br=
ake bends slightly to the right with 2 holes available connecting to the pe=
dal bracket.&nbsp; Both brackets look to be the same.<br></div><div id=3D"y=
iv5072557774yui_3_16_0_1_1446595987547_6716" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=
=3D"yiv5072557774yui_3_16_0_1_1446595987547_6744" dir=3D"ltr">Spacers at th=
e master cylinders:&nbsp; brake master has spacer between master and firewa=
ll.&nbsp; Clutch master does not have spacer due to brake reservoir slightl=
y to one side closest to clutch reservoir, so no spacer or the clutch maste=
r reservoir would contact brake master reservoir and would not bolt up..</d=
iv><div id=3D"yiv5072557774yui_3_16_0_1_1446595987547_6791" dir=3D"ltr"><br=
></div><div id=3D"yiv5072557774yui_3_16_0_1_1446595987547_6850" dir=3D"ltr"=
>I see all this wasted foot well space and now wonder if I have the right p=
edals, brackets etc for this car.</div><div id=3D"yiv5072557774yui_3_16_0_1=
_1446595987547_6849" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yiv5072557774yui_3_16=
_0_1_1446595987547_6848" dir=3D"ltr">Any ideas would be greatly appreciated=
.</div><div id=3D"yiv5072557774yui_3_16_0_1_1446595987547_6881" dir=3D"ltr"=
><br></div><div id=3D"yiv5072557774yui_3_16_0_1_1446595987547_6959" dir=3D"=
ltr">Regards</div><div id=3D"yiv5072557774yui_3_16_0_1_1446595987547_6960" =
dir=3D"ltr">Joel Martin<br></div><div id=3D"yiv5072557774yui_3_16_0_1_14465=
95987547_6847" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_=
4453" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yiv5072557774yui_3_16_0_1_1446595987=
547_6672"><br></div></div></div></div><div id=3D"yiv5072557774">

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<title>Message</title>

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<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_4407">
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv50=
72557774453423413-04112015">Joel</span></font></div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_4452"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#=
0000ff" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv5072557774453423413-04112015"></span><=
/font>&nbsp;</div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_4639"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144665=
0598350_4638" face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span id=3D"yui_3=
_16_0_1_1446650598350_4637" class=3D"yiv5072557774453423413-04112015">Since=
=20
these cars are both left &amp; right hand drive capable; both side&nbsp;foo=
t=20
wells are similar and&nbsp;nearly symmetrical.</span></font></div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_4419"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#=
0000ff" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv5072557774453423413-04112015"></span><=
/font>&nbsp;</div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_4415"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144665=
0598350_4414" face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span id=3D"yui_3=
_16_0_1_1446650598350_4413" class=3D"yiv5072557774453423413-04112015">There=
=20
is only 1 part # for the clutch and brake pedal - 1224677 -=20
LHD</span></font></div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_4412"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144665=
0598350_4418" face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span id=3D"yui_3=
_16_0_1_1446650598350_4417" class=3D"yiv5072557774453423413-04112015">12298=
06 for RHD</span></font></div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_4411"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#=
0000ff" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv5072557774453423413-04112015"></span><=
/font>&nbsp;</div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_4406"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144665=
0598350_4405" face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span id=3D"yui_3=
_16_0_1_1446650598350_4404" class=3D"yiv5072557774453423413-04112015">They=
=20
should have 1 hole for the pivot point and 2 holes for the clutch or brake =
push=20
rod.</span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv50=
72557774453423413-04112015"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_4410"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144665=
0598350_4409" face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span id=3D"yui_3=
_16_0_1_1446650598350_4408" class=3D"yiv5072557774453423413-04112015">It is=
=20
very common in manufacturing of pedals to have 1 part, the forged base part=
=20
which is then struck again to make different pedals.</span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv50=
72557774453423413-04112015"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv50=
72557774453423413-04112015">I=20
found the foot well space behind the pedals to be very handy when driving l=
ong=20
distance in cruise control - room to stretch my legs.</span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv50=
72557774453423413-04112015"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv50=
72557774453423413-04112015">Ron=20
Fraser</span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv50=
72557774453423413-04112015"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv50=
72557774453423413-04112015"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>
<blockquote id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_4641" style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT:0p=
x;" dir=3D"ltr">
  <div></div>
  <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_4640" dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv50725=
57774OutlookMessageHeader" align=3D"left" lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Taho=
ma" size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b> Tigers=20
  [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joel Martin vi=
a=20
  Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 03, 2015 7:37 PM<br><b>To:</b>=
=20
  tigers@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Concern\Question - Fron=
t=20
  Drivers Seat Foot well space<br><br></font></div>
  <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_4642" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:#ff=
f;FONT-FAMILY:garamond, new york, times, serif;COLOR:#000;FONT-SIZE:16px;">
  <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv5072557774yui_3_16_0_1_1446595987547_6667">Inst=
alled drivers seat today,=20
  and moved seat all the way to rear - comes right up to rear shelf on slid=
er -=20
  good. I am 6'0" tall.&nbsp; Concern is the amount of room between knees, =
stock=20
  steering wheel (15.3"), right knee to shift lever and the foot pedals.&nb=
sp;=20
  With the clutch pushed in there is still about 8" left to the firewall wi=
th=20
  about 11" from brake pedal and the accelerator pedals to the firewall.</d=
iv>
  <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv5072557774yui_3_16_0_1_1446595987547_6668"><br>=
</div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv5072557774yui_3_16_0_1_1446595987547_6673">Do w=
e really have this much=20
  wasted foot well room from the end of the pedals to the firewall?&nbsp; T=
he=20
  brake pedal and the accelerator pedal are about even in the foot well wit=
h the=20
  clutch about 1" further 'out' than the other 2.<br></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv5072557774yui_3_16_0_1_1446595987547_6669"><br>=
</div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv5072557774yui_3_16_0_1_1446595987547_6670">Find=
ings:&nbsp; Both the brake=20
  and clutch pedal have the same casting number of 1990300 but with differe=
nt=20
  bends entirely.&nbsp; This seams unusual.&nbsp; The Clutch bends to the l=
eft=20
  with only 1 available hole connecting to the pedal bracket.&nbsp; The bra=
ke=20
  bends slightly to the right with 2 holes available connecting to the peda=
l=20
  bracket.&nbsp; Both brackets look to be the same.<br></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv5072557774yui_3_16_0_1_1446595987547_6716"><br>=
</div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv5072557774yui_3_16_0_1_1446595987547_6744">Spac=
ers at the master=20
  cylinders:&nbsp; brake master has spacer between master and firewall.&nbs=
p;=20
  Clutch master does not have spacer due to brake reservoir slightly to one=
 side=20
  closest to clutch reservoir, so no spacer or the clutch master reservoir =
would=20
  contact brake master reservoir and would not bolt up..</div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv5072557774yui_3_16_0_1_1446595987547_6791"><br>=
</div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv5072557774yui_3_16_0_1_1446595987547_6850">I se=
e all this wasted foot=20
  well space and now wonder if I have the right pedals, brackets etc for th=
is=20
  car.</div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv5072557774yui_3_16_0_1_1446595987547_6849"><br>=
</div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv5072557774yui_3_16_0_1_1446595987547_6848">Any =
ideas would be greatly=20
  appreciated.</div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv5072557774yui_3_16_0_1_1446595987547_6881"><br>=
</div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv5072557774yui_3_16_0_1_1446595987547_6959">Rega=
rds</div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv5072557774yui_3_16_0_1_1446595987547_6960">Joel=
 Martin<br></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv5072557774yui_3_16_0_1_1446595987547_6847"><br>=
</div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>
  <div id=3D"yiv5072557774yui_3_16_0_1_1446595987547_6672"><br></div></div>=
</blockquote></div></div><div id=3D"yiv5072557774"><div dir=3D"ltr">Joel,<d=
iv><br></div><div>There doesn't seem to be much adjustment available for pe=
dal height except the two holes on the foot pedal, which gains / costs you =
@ 1 1/2" of height according to Section K of the Tiger Workshop Manual. If =
the goal is to have all 3 pedals' height the same that's the base line... w=
hichever hole you choose, and adjust the throttle pedal height to match the=
 brake and clutch height. I don't think the original brake and clutch rods =
were adjustable... at least the diagram doesn't show it... but later / afte=
rmarket cylinder pushrods may have an adjustment there.&nbsp;</div><div><br=
></div><div>You're right, imo, the travel is far more than needed for full =
clutch / brake engagement, But with the Tiger tunnel mods it gets a bit tig=
ht the closer to the firewall the pedals get. I'm a little guy; the folks w=
ith big feet will have issues the lower the pedals. As it is it's easy to h=
it the brake and throttle at the same time until one gets used to the car.&=
nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Anything can be accomplished with a drill pr=
ess, but stock height, sadly, appears to be fixed.</div><div><br></div><div=
>Tom</div><div>'67 Mark 2</div></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_=
4653" class=3D"yiv5072557774gmail_extra"><br><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144665=
0598350_4652" class=3D"yiv5072557774gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 8:5=
2 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymail=
to=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:tigers=
@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote=
 id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_4651" class=3D"yiv5072557774gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><u=
></u>





<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_4650">
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span>Joel</span></f=
ont></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span></span></font>=
&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span>Since=20
these cars are both left &amp; right hand drive capable; both side&nbsp;foo=
t=20
wells are similar and&nbsp;nearly symmetrical.</span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span></span></font>=
&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span>There=20
is only 1 part # for the clutch and brake pedal - 1224677 -=20
LHD</span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span>1229806 for RH=
D</span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span></span></font>=
&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span>They=20
should have 1 hole for the pivot point and 2 holes for the clutch or brake =
push=20
rod.</span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span></span></font>=
&nbsp;</div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_4649"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144665=
0598350_4648" face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span id=3D"yui_3=
_16_0_1_1446650598350_4647">It is=20
very common in manufacturing of pedals to have 1 part, the forged base part=
=20
which is then struck again to make different pedals.</span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span></span></font>=
&nbsp;</div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_4656"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144665=
0598350_4655" face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span id=3D"yui_3=
_16_0_1_1446650598350_4654">I=20
found the foot well space behind the pedals to be very handy when driving l=
ong=20
distance in cruise control - room to stretch my legs.</span></font></div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_4657"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#=
0000ff" size=3D"2"><span></span></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span>Ron=20
Fraser</span></font></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_4662"><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_4661" class=3D"yiv5072557774h5">
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span></span></font>=
&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><span></span></font>=
&nbsp;</div>
<blockquote id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_4660" style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT:0p=
x;" dir=3D"ltr">
  <div></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left" lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Tahoma" size=
=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b> Tigers=20
  [mailto:<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.n=
et" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net";>tigers-=
bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joel Martin via=20
  Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 03, 2015 7:37 PM<br><b>To:</b>=
=20
  <a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_b=
lank" href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><b=
>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Concern\Question - Front=20
  Drivers Seat Foot well space<br><br></font></div>
  <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_4659" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:#ff=
f;FONT-FAMILY:garamond, new york, times, serif;COLOR:#000;FONT-SIZE:16px;">
  <div dir=3D"ltr">Installed drivers seat today,=20
  and moved seat all the way to rear - comes right up to rear shelf on slid=
er -=20
  good. I am 6'0" tall.&nbsp; Concern is the amount of room between knees, =
stock=20
  steering wheel (15.3"), right knee to shift lever and the foot pedals.&nb=
sp;=20
  With the clutch pushed in there is still about 8" left to the firewall wi=
th=20
  about 11" from brake pedal and the accelerator pedals to the firewall.</d=
iv>
  <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_4658" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr">Do we really have this much=20
  wasted foot well room from the end of the pedals to the firewall?&nbsp; T=
he=20
  brake pedal and the accelerator pedal are about even in the foot well wit=
h the=20
  clutch about 1" further 'out' than the other 2.<br></div>
  <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_4664" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr">Findings:&nbsp; Both the brake=20
  and clutch pedal have the same casting number of 1990300 but with differe=
nt=20
  bends entirely.&nbsp; This seams unusual.&nbsp; The Clutch bends to the l=
eft=20
  with only 1 available hole connecting to the pedal bracket.&nbsp; The bra=
ke=20
  bends slightly to the right with 2 holes available connecting to the peda=
l=20
  bracket.&nbsp; Both brackets look to be the same.<br></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr">Spacers at the master=20
  cylinders:&nbsp; brake master has spacer between master and firewall.&nbs=
p;=20
  Clutch master does not have spacer due to brake reservoir slightly to one=
 side=20
  closest to clutch reservoir, so no spacer or the clutch master reservoir =
would=20
  contact brake master reservoir and would not bolt up..</div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr">I see all this wasted foot=20
  well space and now wonder if I have the right pedals, brackets etc for th=
is=20
  car.</div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr">Any ideas would be greatly=20
  appreciated.</div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr">Regards</div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr">Joel Martin<br></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>
  <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446650598350_4665" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>
  <div><br></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div>
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