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Re: [Tigers] Brake pads

To: rfraser@bluefrog.com, banana111@msn.com
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Brake pads
From: mwood24020--- via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 12:28:44 -0500
Cc: tigers@Autox.Team.Net
Delivered-to: mharc@autox.team.net
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=20Ron=20hit=20on=20the=20key:=20heat.=20I=20believe=20the=20temp=20range=20of=20=
the=20pad=20has=20to=20be=20matched=20to=20the=20use.=20It=20isn't=20just=20abou=
t=20having=20"ceiling"=20for=20track=20or=20other=20severe=20use=20to=20avoid=20=
all=20the=20bad=20stuff=20that=20happens=20to=20pads=20once=20they=20get=20past=20=
their=20temp=20limits,=20it=20is=20also=20about=20having=20the=20temp=20range=20=
right=20to=20affect=20proper=20pad=20transfer.=20A=20race=20pad,=20like=20the=20=
DTC-30=20or=20Polymatrix,=20will=20typically=20not=20see=20enough=20heat=20in=20=
the=20type=20of=20use=20you've=20described=20to=20get=20the=20pad=20to=20that=20=
happy=20place=20(particularly=20on=20our=20light=20cars,=20more=20so=20with=20a=20=
bigger=20brake=20like=20the=20Wilwood).=20The=20result=20is=20lots=20of=20noise,=
=20shuddering=20and=20accelerated=20rotor=20wear.=20Race=20pads=20also=20tend=20=
to=20dust=20badly,=20if=20that=20is=20a=20consideration=20(Hawk=20in=20particula=
r,=20across=20most=20of=20their=20compounds).=20Contrary=20to=20what=20some=20ma=
nufacturers=20want=20to=20suggest,=20you=20really=20can't=20have=20good=20street=
=20performance=20in=20a=20true=20race=20pad.=20If=20doing=20track=20events=20or=20=
other=20more=20severe=20use=20is=20in=20your=20plans,=20I'd=20suggest=20having=20=
two=20sets=20of=20rotors/pads=20to=20swap=20out=20before=20those=20events.=20Tha=
t's=20what=20many=20of=20us=20who=20have=20run=20dual=20purpose=20cars=20have=20=
felt=20to=20be=20the=20best=20solution.=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0ATypically,=20a=20high=20=
performance=20street=20pad,=20like=20the=20HPS=20Ron=20described=20is=20going=20=
to=20work=20best=20(I=20run=20the=20same=20pad=20on=20my=20car...don't=20recomme=
nd=20the=20HP+=20as=20it=20doesn't=20really=20give=20much=20more=20ceiling,=20sq=
ueals=20until=20warm=20and=20dusts=20like=20crazy).=20Key=20is=20having=20good=20=
cold=20bite,=20not=20requiring=20a=20lot=20of=20heat=20to=20start=20working=20as=
=20designed=20and=20still=20providing=20some=20overhead=20temp=20range,=20which=20=
is=20code=20for=20"high=20performance=20street".=20I'm=20a=20big=20fan=20of=20Ca=
rbotech=20(AX-6=20is=20probably=20right,=20maybe=201521)=20and=20Ferodo=20also=20=
has=20a=20compound=20(DS2500)=20that=20should=20be=20good=20on=20our=20cars.=20G=
ood=20news=20is=20the=20Wilwood=20caliper=20is=20supported=20by=20a=20bunch=20of=
=20pad=20manufacturers,=20although=20I'm=20not=20certain=20of=20availability=20o=
f=20the=20pads=20I've=20mentioned.?=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0AAutocross=20specific,=20mos=
t=20times=20cold=20bite=20and=20pedal=20feel=20is=20more=20important=20than=20he=
at=20range=20(I=20won=20an=20SCCA=20national=20championship=20using=20stock=20pa=
ds=20in=202014).=20I=20really=20like=20the=20HPS=20for=20autocrossing=20the=20Ti=
ger=20:)=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A-----Original=20Message-----=0D=
=0AFrom:=20Ron=20Fraser=20via=20Tigers=20&lt;tigers@autox.team.net&gt;=0D=0ATo:=20=
'Brent=20Edinger'=20&lt;banana111@msn.com&gt;=0D=0ACc:=20tigers=20&lt;tigers@Aut=
ox.Team.Net&gt;=0D=0ASent:=20Sun,=20Jan=2017,=202016=208:45=20am=0D=0ASubject:=20=
Re:=20[Tigers]=20Brake=20pads=0D=0A=0D=0A=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20Bre=
nt=0D=0A=20???=20All=20brake=20pads=20have=20a=20heat=20=20rating.?=20The=20hard=
er=20you=20drive=20and=20brake=20the=20more=20heat=20you=20generate=20on=20the=20=
=20pads.?=20If=20the=20pad=20brake=20material=20starts=20to=20turn=20white=20you=
=20are=20pushing=20the=20=20heat=20limit=20of=20the=20pads=20and=20their=20integ=
rity.?=20You=20then=20need=20to=20upgrade=20the=20=20pads.=0D=0A=20?=0D=0A=20???=
=20I=20currently=20have=20HPS=20pads=20on=20my=20=20stock=20Tiger=20brakes.??=20=
They=20will=20work=20very=20nicely=20for=20street=20use=20and=20=20probably=20fo=
r=20occasional=20autocross.=0D=0A=20?=0D=0A=20???=20I=20work=20with=20a=20Drivin=
g=20School=20at=20=20Watkins=20Glen=20and=20drive=20a=20mostly=20stock=201988=20=
Ford=20Mustang=20there.?=20I=20have=20=20progressed=20from=20Hawke=20HP=20to=20H=
PS=20to=20Black=20to=20Blue=20pads=20over=20the=20years.?=20I=20=20could?smoke=20=
the=20Blue=20pads=20if=20I=20wanted=20to=20but=20I=20don't.=0D=0A=20?=0D=0A=20??=
?=20As=20with=20most=20pads=20you=20need=20to=20bed=20=20them=20in=20correctly=20=
to=20get=20the=20best=20results.=0D=0A=20?=0D=0A=20Ron=20=20Fraser=0D=0A=20=20=20=
=20=0D=0A=20=20=20-----Original=20Message-----=0D=0AFrom:=20Tigers=20=20=20=20[m=
ailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net]=20On=20Behalf=20Of=20Brent=20Edinger=20via=20=
=20=20=20Tigers=0D=0ASent:=20Sunday,=20January=2017,=202016=2010:28=20AM=0D=0ATo=
:=20=20=20=20mwood24020@aol.com;=20tigers@autox.team.net=0D=0ASubject:=20Re:=20[=
Tigers]=20=20=20=20Brake=20pads=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=20=20=20I=20use=20my=20Tiger=20=
like=20most,=20spirited=20street=20driving=20and=20occasional=20=20=20=20autocro=
ss.=20I=20would=20like=20to=20=0D=0Asee=20some=20improvement=20in=20the=20brakes=
=20so=20I'm=20=20=20=20trolling=20for=20info=20on=20others=20experience=20with=20=
=0D=0Athis=20setup.=20=20=20=20=0D=0A=0D=0A???????????=20=20=20=20Brent=0D=0A=0D=
=0A=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20To:=20banana111@msn.com;=20tigers@autox.team.net=0D=
=0ASubject:=20Re:=20[Tigers]=20Brake=20=20=20=20pads=0D=0AFrom:=20mwood24020@aol=
.com=0D=0ADate:=20Sat,=2016=20Jan=202016=2017:34:55=20=20=20=20-0500=0D=0A=0D=0A=
=20=20=20=0D=0A=20=20=20How=20do=20you=20use=20your=20car?=20Hard=20to=20tell=20=
by=20the=20compounds=20you've=20given,=20as=20=20=20=20they're=20all=20somewhat=20=
different=20in=20characteristics.=0D=0A=0D=0A=20=20=20=0D=0A=0D=0A-----Original=20=
Message-----=0D=0AFrom:=20Brent=20Edinger=20via=20Tigers=20=20=20=20&lt;tigers@a=
utox.team.net&gt;=0D=0ATo:=20tigers=20=20=20=20&lt;tigers@autox.team.net&gt;=0D=0A=
Sent:=20Sat,=20Jan=2016,=202016=202:08=20pm=0D=0ASubject:=20=20=20=20[Tigers]=20=
Brake=20pads=0D=0A=0D=0A=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20Anybody=20running=20the=20Wil=
wood=2011.75"=20front=20brake=20kit=20do=20any=20=20=20=20experimenting=20=0D=0A=
with=20pad=20compounds?=20They=20come=20with=20the=20BP-10=20wilwood=20=20=20=20=
compound=20but=0D=0AI=20think=20there=20is=20room=20for=20some=20improvement.=20=
I'm=20looking=20at=20the=20=20=20=20Hawk=20DTC-30=0D=0Aor=20HP=20compound=20or=20=
the=20Wilwood=20PolyMatrix=20E.=20=20=20=20=0D=0A=0D=0A????????=20Brent=20=20=20=
=20=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=20=20=20_______________________________________________=20=
=20tigers@autox.team.net=20=20Donate:=20http://www.team.net/donate.html=20Archiv=
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=0D=0A<div=20style=3D"font-family:arial;color:black;font-size:10pt;"><span=20sty=
le=3D"display:inline-block"=20contenteditable=3D"false"></span></div>=0D=0A=0D=0A=
<div>=20Ron=20hit=20on=20the=20key:=20heat.=20I=20believe=20the=20temp=20range=20=
of=20the=20pad=20has=20to=20be=20matched=20to=20the=20use.=20It=20isn't=20just=20=
about=20having=20"ceiling"=20for=20track=20or=20other=20severe=20use=20to=20avoi=
d=20all=20the=20bad=20stuff=20that=20happens=20to=20pads=20once=20they=20get=20p=
ast=20their=20temp=20limits,=20it=20is=20also=20about=20having=20the=20temp=20ra=
nge=20right=20to=20affect=20proper=20pad=20transfer.=20A=20race=20pad,=20like=20=
the=20DTC-30=20or=20Polymatrix,=20will=20typically=20not=20see=20enough=20heat=20=
in=20the=20type=20of=20use=20you've=20described=20to=20get=20the=20pad=20to=20th=
at=20happy=20place=20(particularly=20on=20our=20light=20cars,=20more=20so=20with=
=20a=20bigger=20brake=20like=20the=20Wilwood).=20The=20result=20is=20lots=20of=20=
noise,=20shuddering=20and=20accelerated=20rotor=20wear.=20Race=20pads=20also=20t=
end=20to=20dust=20badly,=20if=20that=20is=20a=20consideration=20(Hawk=20in=20par=
ticular,=20across=20most=20of=20their=20compounds).=20Contrary=20to=20what=20som=
e=20manufacturers=20want=20to=20suggest,=20you=20really=20can't=20have=20good=20=
street=20performance=20in=20a=20true=20race=20pad.=20If=20doing=20track=20events=
=20or=20other=20more=20severe=20use=20is=20in=20your=20plans,=20I'd=20suggest=20=
having=20two=20sets=20of=20rotors/pads=20to=20swap=20out=20before=20those=20even=
ts.=20That's=20what=20many=20of=20us=20who=20have=20run=20dual=20purpose=20cars=20=
have=20felt=20to=20be=20the=20best=20solution.</div>=0D=0A=0D=0A<div><br>=0D=0A<=
/div>=0D=0A=0D=0A<div>Typically,=20a=20high=20performance=20street=20pad,=20like=
=20the=20HPS=20Ron=20described=20is=20going=20to=20work=20best=20(I=20run=20the=20=
same=20pad=20on=20my=20car...don't=20recommend=20the=20HP+=20as=20it=20doesn't=20=
really=20give=20much=20more=20ceiling,=20squeals=20until=20warm=20and=20dusts=20=
like=20crazy).=20Key=20is=20having=20good=20cold=20bite,=20not=20requiring=20a=20=
lot=20of=20heat=20to=20start=20working=20as=20designed=20and=20still=20providing=
=20some=20overhead=20temp=20range,=20which=20is=20code=20for=20"high=20performan=
ce=20street".=20I'm=20a=20big=20fan=20of=20Carbotech=20(AX-6=20is=20probably=20r=
ight,=20maybe=201521)=20and=20Ferodo=20also=20has=20a=20compound=20(DS2500)=20th=
at=20should=20be=20good=20on=20our=20cars.=20Good=20news=20is=20the=20Wilwood=20=
caliper=20is=20supported=20by=20a=20bunch=20of=20pad=20manufacturers,=20although=
=20I'm=20not=20certain=20of=20availability=20of=20the=20pads=20I've=20mentioned.=
&nbsp;</div>=0D=0A=0D=0A<div><br>=0D=0A</div>=0D=0A=0D=0A<div>Autocross=20specif=
ic,=20most=20times=20cold=20bite=20and=20pedal=20feel=20is=20more=20important=20=
than=20heat=20range=20(I=20won=20an=20SCCA=20national=20championship=20using=20s=
tock=20pads=20in=202014).=20I=20really=20like=20the=20HPS=20for=20autocrossing=20=
the=20Tiger=20:)</div>=0D=0A=0D=0A<div><br>=0D=0A</div>=0D=0A=0D=0A<div><br>=0D=0A=
</div>=0D=0A=0D=0A<div><br>=0D=0A</div>=0D=0A-----Original=20Message-----<br>=0D=
=0AFrom:=20Ron=20Fraser=20via=20Tigers=20&lt;tigers@autox.team.net&gt;<br>=0D=0A=
To:=20'Brent=20Edinger'=20&lt;banana111@msn.com&gt;<br>=0D=0ACc:=20tigers=20&lt;=
tigers@Autox.Team.Net&gt;<br>=0D=0ASent:=20Sun,=20Jan=2017,=202016=208:45=20am<b=
r>=0D=0ASubject:=20Re:=20[Tigers]=20Brake=20pads<br>=0D=0A<br>=0D=0A=20=0D=0A<di=
v=20id=3D"AOLMsgPart_2_3d3c8ac4-eea0-4c29-b1fc-9c2939e975b6">=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=
=20=20=20<style>=20#AOLMsgPart_2_3d3c8ac4-eea0-4c29-b1fc-9c2939e975b6=20td{color=
:=20black;}=20.aolReplacedBody=20.aolmail_hmmessage=20P=20{=20=20PADDING-BOTTOM:=
=200px;=20MARGIN:=200px;=20PADDING-LEFT:=200px;=20PADDING-RIGHT:=200px;=20PADDIN=
G-TOP:=200px=20}=20.aolReplacedBody=20BODY.aolmail_hmmessage=20{=20=20FONT-FAMIL=
Y:=20Calibri;=20FONT-SIZE:=2012pt=20}=20=20</style>=0D=0A<div=20class=3D"hmmessa=
ge=20aolReplacedBody">=20=0D=0A<div><font=20color=3D"#0000ff"=20size=3D"2"=20fac=
e=3D"Arial"><span=20class=3D"aolmail_031422816-17012016">Brent</span></font></di=
v>=0D=0A=20=0D=0A<div><font=20color=3D"#0000ff"=20size=3D"2"=20face=3D"Arial"><s=
pan=20class=3D"aolmail_031422816-17012016">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20All=20brake=20pa=
ds=20have=20a=20heat=20=20rating.&nbsp;=20The=20harder=20you=20drive=20and=20bra=
ke=20the=20more=20heat=20you=20generate=20on=20the=20=20pads.&nbsp;=20If=20the=20=
pad=20brake=20material=20starts=20to=20turn=20white=20you=20are=20pushing=20the=20=
=20heat=20limit=20of=20the=20pads=20and=20their=20integrity.&nbsp;=20You=20then=20=
need=20to=20upgrade=20the=20=20pads.</span></font></div>=0D=0A=20=0D=0A<div><fon=
t=20color=3D"#0000ff"=20size=3D"2"=20face=3D"Arial"><span=20class=3D"aolmail_031=
422816-17012016"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>=0D=0A=20=0D=0A<div><font=20color=3D"=
#0000ff"=20size=3D"2"=20face=3D"Arial"><span=20class=3D"aolmail_031422816-170120=
16">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20I=20currently=20have=20HPS=20pads=20on=20my=20=20stock=20=
Tiger=20brakes.&nbsp;&nbsp;=20They=20will=20work=20very=20nicely=20for=20street=20=
use=20and=20=20probably=20for=20occasional=20autocross.</span></font></div>=0D=0A=
=20=0D=0A<div><font=20color=3D"#0000ff"=20size=3D"2"=20face=3D"Arial"><span=20cl=
ass=3D"aolmail_031422816-17012016"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>=0D=0A=20=0D=0A<div=
><font=20color=3D"#0000ff"=20size=3D"2"=20face=3D"Arial"><span=20class=3D"aolmai=
l_031422816-17012016">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20I=20work=20with=20a=20Driving=20Schoo=
l=20at=20=20Watkins=20Glen=20and=20drive=20a=20mostly=20stock=201988=20Ford=20Mu=
stang=20there.&nbsp;=20I=20have=20=20progressed=20from=20Hawke=20HP=20to=20HPS=20=
to=20Black=20to=20Blue=20pads=20over=20the=20years.&nbsp;=20I=20=20could&nbsp;sm=
oke=20the=20Blue=20pads=20if=20I=20wanted=20to=20but=20I=20don't.</span></font><=
/div>=0D=0A=20=0D=0A<div><font=20color=3D"#0000ff"=20size=3D"2"=20face=3D"Arial"=
><span=20class=3D"aolmail_031422816-17012016"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>=0D=0A=20=
=0D=0A<div><font=20color=3D"#0000ff"=20size=3D"2"=20face=3D"Arial"><span=20class=
=3D"aolmail_031422816-17012016">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20As=20with=20most=20pads=20y=
ou=20need=20to=20bed=20=20them=20in=20correctly=20to=20get=20the=20best=20result=
s.</span></font></div>=0D=0A=20=0D=0A<div><font=20color=3D"#0000ff"=20size=3D"2"=
=20face=3D"Arial"><span=20class=3D"aolmail_031422816-17012016"></span></font>&nb=
sp;</div>=0D=0A=20=0D=0A<div><font=20color=3D"#0000ff"=20size=3D"2"=20face=3D"Ar=
ial"><span=20class=3D"aolmail_031422816-17012016">Ron=20=20Fraser</span></font><=
/div>=0D=0A=20<blockquote=20style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT:=200px"=20dir=3D"ltr">=20=20=20=
=0D=0A<div></div>=0D=0A=20=20=20=0D=0A<div=20dir=3D"ltr"=20lang=3D"en-us"=20clas=
s=3D"aolmail_OutlookMessageHeader"=20align=3D"left"><font=20size=3D"2"=20face=3D=
"Tahoma">-----Original=20Message-----<br>=0D=0A<b>From:</b>=20Tigers=20=20=20=20=
[<a=20href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net?";>mailto:tigers-bounces@autox=
.team.net</a>]=20<b>On=20Behalf=20Of=20</b>Brent=20Edinger=20via=20=20=20=20Tige=
rs<br>=0D=0A<b>Sent:</b>=20Sunday,=20January=2017,=202016=2010:28=20AM<br>=0D=0A=
<b>To:</b>=20=20=20=20<a=20href=3D"mailto:mwood24020@aol.com";>mwood24020@aol.com=
</a>;=20<a=20href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a><br>=
=0D=0A<b>Subject:</b>=20Re:=20[Tigers]=20=20=20=20Brake=20pads<br>=0D=0A<br>=0D=0A=
</font></div>=0D=0A=20=20=20=0D=0A<div=20dir=3D"ltr">I=20use=20my=20Tiger=20like=
=20most,=20spirited=20street=20driving=20and=20occasional=20=20=20=20autocross.=20=
I=20would=20like=20to=20<br>=0D=0Asee=20some=20improvement=20in=20the=20brakes=20=
so=20I'm=20=20=20=20trolling=20for=20info=20on=20others=20experience=20with=20<b=
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