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Re: [Tigers] Request: Engine Tag Stamping

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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Request: Engine Tag Stamping
From: Mark Rense via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2020 12:18:03 -0400
Delivered-to: mharc@autox.team.net
Delivered-to: Tigers@autox.team.net
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I had. a new tag made up for one of my Tigers maybe 12 years ago. I bought
the tag from Rick and I mailed it to either a Pacific Tiger or STOA club
member. It came back with the correct looking fonts. I don't remember who
it was but maybe someone else here does.If I can find that email chain I'll
forward the info.
Bugz

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 11:03 AM Dave Munroe via Tigers <
tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:

> Ron;
>
> As you may recall, my Tiger came to me minus the VIN tag. (Eventually
> TAC'ed at the 2010 TE/AE Annual Event in Rockland, Me.)  No doubt it is
> running around Mass. attached to an Alger with incorrect rivets.
>
> Ever since, I have been searching the Globe for the correct font type and
> size, to  no avail. To complicate matters, having found and studied many
> many B382XXX VIN plates, it is clear there was more than one set of fonts
> used, often on the same VIN plate.
>
> It also appears that the font stamp styles may have been unique to the
> U.K., because of all the vintage stamps I have found on the internet from
> North America, none are close to those used to stamp our Tiger VIN' and J=
AL
> Plates.
>
> If the engine plates were stamped in U.S. or Canada, the chances of
> finding the correct fonts should be much better.
>
> If anyone ever comes uo with a set, I am sure I am not the only one who
> would pay dearly for a chance to "rent" them to replace my original plate=
.
>
> Dave in Nova Scotia
> B382000450LRXFE
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry =E2=80=94 the most secure mobile device =E2=80=94=
 via the Bell
> Network
> *From:* tigers@autox.team.net
> *Sent:* March 14, 2020 9:54 AM
> *To:* coolvt@aol.com; jefferyrandall@gmail.com
> *Reply to:* rfraser@bluefrog.com
> *Cc:* tigers@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Request: Engine Tag Stamping
>
> The big question here is about the original Font for this decal.
>
>
>
> What style Font?
>
> What size Font?
>
>
>
> I have no expertise in this field so no help there.
>
>
>
> It would be nice if someone can identify the original Font or a Font that
> is very similar.
>
>
>
> It is very possible that is just a typical machinist=E2=80=99s stamp set =
something
> the Cleveland Foundry normally stocked.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* coolvt@aol.com <coolvt@aol.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, March 13, 2020 7:56 PM
> *To:* jefferyrandall@gmail.com; rfraser@bluefrog.com
> *Cc:* tigers@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Request: Engine Tag Stamping
>
>
>
> Any locksmith shop should have punches they use to stamp keys.  Not sure
> how close they might look to what you need.
>
> Mark L
>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 3/13/2020 7:27:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> tigers@autox.team.net writes:
>
>
>
> Go to harbor freight and buy a set of  punch stamps, use a piece of tape
> to keep the line straight and go for it.
>
>     Jeff
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 7:18 PM Ron Fraser via Tigers <
> tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Randy
>
>                 Its possible but don=E2=80=99t know for sure =E2=80=93 th=
e Cleveland
> Foundry may have used a war surplus dog tag machine for these.
>
> I=E2=80=99m just throwing that out there for the possibility.   Ford made=
 war
> produces and they all needed tags so some sort of war surplus machine is
> possible maybe one Ford already had on hand.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Randall
> Antosiak via Tigers
> *Sent:* Friday, March 13, 2020 3:49 PM
> *To:* tigers@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Tigers] Request: Engine Tag Stamping
>
>
>
> Hi Tiger People -
>
> I want to replace my worn engine tag.  I got a fresh tag from Rick, but
> the problem is that I cannot find a way to stamp the new tag with the
> engine info.  Anyone have a solution?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Randy
>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I had. a new tag made up for one of my Tigers maybe 1=
2 years ago. I bought the tag from Rick and I mailed it to either a Pacific=
 Tiger or STOA club member. It came back with the correct looking fonts. I =
don&#39;t remember who it was but maybe someone else here does.If I can fin=
d that email chain I&#39;ll forward the info.</div><div>Bugz<br></div></div=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mo=
n, Mar 16, 2020 at 11:03 AM Dave Munroe via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ti=
gers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px=
 solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"background-color:rg=
b(255,255,255);background-image:initial;line-height:initial"><div id=3D"gma=
il-m_-8812779255913283534response_container_BBPPID" style=3D"outline:curren=
tcolor none medium" dir=3D"auto"> <div name=3D"BB10" id=3D"gmail-m_-8812779=
255913283534BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir=3D"auto" style=3D"width:100%"> Ro=
n;</div><div name=3D"BB10" id=3D"gmail-m_-8812779255913283534BB10_response_=
div_BBPPID" dir=3D"auto" style=3D"width:100%"><br></div><div name=3D"BB10" =
id=3D"gmail-m_-8812779255913283534BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir=3D"auto" st=
yle=3D"width:100%">As you may recall, my Tiger came to me minus the VIN tag=
. (Eventually TAC&#39;ed at the 2010 TE/AE Annual Event in Rockland, Me.)=
=C2=A0 No doubt it is running around Mass. attached to an Alger with incorr=
ect rivets.</div><div name=3D"BB10" id=3D"gmail-m_-8812779255913283534BB10_=
response_div_BBPPID" dir=3D"auto" style=3D"width:100%"><br></div><div name=
=3D"BB10" id=3D"gmail-m_-8812779255913283534BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir=
=3D"auto" style=3D"width:100%">Ever since, I have been searching the Globe =
for the correct font type and size, to=C2=A0 no avail. To complicate matter=
s, having found and studied many many B382XXX VIN plates, it is clear there=
 was more than one set of fonts used, often on the same VIN plate.</div><di=
v name=3D"BB10" id=3D"gmail-m_-8812779255913283534BB10_response_div_BBPPID"=
 dir=3D"auto" style=3D"width:100%"><br></div><div name=3D"BB10" id=3D"gmail=
-m_-8812779255913283534BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir=3D"auto" style=3D"widt=
h:100%">It also appears that the font stamp styles may have been unique to =
the U.K., because of all the vintage stamps I have found on the internet fr=
om North America, none are close to those used to stamp our Tiger VIN&#39; =
and JAL Plates.</div><div name=3D"BB10" id=3D"gmail-m_-8812779255913283534B=
B10_response_div_BBPPID" dir=3D"auto" style=3D"width:100%"><br></div><div n=
ame=3D"BB10" id=3D"gmail-m_-8812779255913283534BB10_response_div_BBPPID" di=
r=3D"auto" style=3D"width:100%">If the engine plates were stamped in U.S. o=
r Canada, the chances of finding the correct fonts should be much better.=
=C2=A0</div><div name=3D"BB10" id=3D"gmail-m_-8812779255913283534BB10_respo=
nse_div_BBPPID" dir=3D"auto" style=3D"width:100%"><br></div><div name=3D"BB=
10" id=3D"gmail-m_-8812779255913283534BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir=3D"auto=
" style=3D"width:100%">If anyone ever comes uo with a set, I am sure I am n=
ot the only one who would pay dearly for a chance to &quot;rent&quot; them =
to replace my original plate.</div><div name=3D"BB10" id=3D"gmail-m_-881277=
9255913283534BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir=3D"auto" style=3D"width:100%"><b=
r></div><div name=3D"BB10" id=3D"gmail-m_-8812779255913283534BB10_response_=
div_BBPPID" dir=3D"auto" style=3D"width:100%">Dave in Nova Scotia</div><div=
 name=3D"BB10" id=3D"gmail-m_-8812779255913283534BB10_response_div_BBPPID" =
dir=3D"auto" style=3D"width:100%">B382000450LRXFE=C2=A0</div>              =
                                                                           =
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-m_-8812779255913283534response_div_spacer_BBPPID" dir=3D"auto" style=3D"wi=
dth:100%"> <br style=3D"display:initial"></div>                            =
<div id=3D"gmail-m_-8812779255913283534blackberry_signature_BBPPID" name=3D=
"BB10" dir=3D"auto">     <div id=3D"gmail-m_-8812779255913283534_signatureP=
laceholder_BBPPID" name=3D"BB10" dir=3D"auto">Sent from my BlackBerry =E2=
=80=94 the most secure mobile device =E2=80=94 via the Bell Network</div> <=
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ID" dir=3D"auto">                                                          =
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        <table id=3D"gmail-m_-8812779255913283534_pHCWrapper_BBPPID" style=
=3D"background-color:white;border-spacing:0px;display:table;outline:current=
color none medium" width=3D"100%"><tbody><tr><td colspan=3D"2" style=3D"pad=
ding:initial;font-size:initial;text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,=
255,255)">                           <div style=3D"border-color:rgb(181,196=
,223) currentcolor currentcolor;border-style:solid none none;border-width:1=
pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0in 0in;font-family:Tahoma,&quot;BB Alpha Sans=
&quot;,&quot;Slate Pro&quot;;font-size:10pt">  <div id=3D"gmail-m_-88127792=
55913283534from"><b>From:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; targ=
et=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a></div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-8812779255=
913283534sent"><b>Sent:</b> March 14, 2020 9:54 AM</div><div id=3D"gmail-m_=
-8812779255913283534to"><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:coolvt@aol.com"; target=
=3D"_blank">coolvt@aol.com</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:jefferyrandall@gmail.com"=
 target=3D"_blank">jefferyrandall@gmail.com</a></div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-88=
12779255913283534reply_to"><b>Reply to:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluef=
rog.com" target=3D"_blank">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a></div><div id=3D"gmail-m=
_-8812779255913283534cc"><b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net=
" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a></div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-8812=
779255913283534subject"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Request: Engine Tag St=
amping</div></div></td></tr></tbody></table> <br> </div><div name=3D"BB10" =
dir=3D"auto" style=3D"background-image:initial;line-height:initial;outline:=
currentcolor none medium"><div id=3D"gmail-m_-8812779255913283534ssc6133"><=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">The big question here is about the original=
 Font for this decal.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal">What style Font?</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">What size Font?</p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have no expertise in thi=
s field so no help there.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">It would be nice if someone can identify the original Font or a F=
ont that is very similar.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">It is very possible that is just a typical machinist=E2=80=99s st=
amp set something the Cleveland Foundry normally stocked. =C2=A0</p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ron Fraser</p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b>  <a href=3D"mailto=
:coolvt@aol.com" target=3D"_blank">coolvt@aol.com</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:coolvt@aol.com" target=3D"_blank">coolvt@aol.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Sent:</b> F=
riday, March 13, 2020 7:56 PM<br><b>To:</b>  <a href=3D"mailto:jefferyranda=
ll@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jefferyrandall@gmail.com</a>; <a href=3D"ma=
ilto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" target=3D"_blank">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a><br><b=
>Cc:</b>  <a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">tigers=
@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Request: Engine Tag Sta=
mping</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt;font-family:&quot;arial&quot;,sans-serif=
;color:black">Any locksmith shop should have punches they use to stamp keys=
.=C2=A0 Not sure how close they might look to what you need.</span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Mark L</span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt;font-family:&quot;arial&quot;,=
sans-serif;color:black">=C2=A0</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size:14pt;font-family:&quot;arial&quot;,sans-serif;colo=
r:black">=C2=A0</span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">In a message d=
ated 3/13/2020 7:27:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, <a href=3D"mailto:tigers@a=
utox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a> writes: </p><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p></div><div><blockquote style=3D"border-co=
lor:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor blue;border-style:none none none=
 solid;border-width:medium medium medium 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4pt;marg=
in-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div id=3D"gmail-m_-881277=
9255913283534yiv2506447137"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Go to harbor f=
reight and buy a set of =C2=A0punch stamps, use a piece of tape to keep the=
 line straight and go for it. </p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =C2=A0=
 Jeff</p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p><div><div id=3D"gmail=
-m_-8812779255913283534yiv2506447137yqt93471"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">O=
n Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 7:18 PM Ron Fraser via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
tigers@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrot=
e:</p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-color:currentcolor currentcolor cur=
rentcolor rgb(204,204,204);border-style:none none none solid;border-width:m=
edium medium medium 1pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin:5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt"><=
div><div><p>Randy</p><p>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Its possible but don=E2=80=99t know=
 for sure =E2=80=93 the Cleveland Foundry may have used a war surplus dog t=
ag machine for these.</p><p>I=E2=80=99m just throwing that out there for th=
e possibility.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Ford made war produces and they all needed tags =
so some sort of war surplus machine is possible maybe one Ford already had =
on hand.</p><p>=C2=A0</p><p>Ron Fraser</p><p>=C2=A0</p><div><div style=3D"b=
order-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;border-style:solid n=
one none;border-width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p><strong><sp=
an style=3D"font-family:&quot;calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></stron=
g> Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_b=
lank">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <strong><span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:&quot;calibri&quot;,sans-serif">On Behalf Of </span></strong>Randall An=
tosiak via Tigers<br><strong><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;calibri&quot;=
,sans-serif">Sent:</span></strong> Friday, March 13, 2020 3:49 PM<br><stron=
g><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;calibri&quot;,sans-serif">To:</span></st=
rong> <a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">tigers@aut=
ox.team.net</a><br><strong><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;calibri&quot;,s=
ans-serif">Subject:</span></strong> [Tigers] Request: Engine Tag Stamping</=
p></div></div><p>=C2=A0</p><div><div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;ma=
rgin-bottom:5pt"><div><div><div><div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;=
font-family:&quot;helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Hi Tiger =
People -</span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:=
&quot;helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">I want to replace my =
worn engine tag.=C2=A0 I got a fresh tag from Rick, but the problem is that=
 I cannot find a way to stamp the new tag with the engine info.=C2=A0 Anyon=
e have a solution?</span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Thanks,</sp=
an></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;helvet=
ica&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Randy</span></p></div><div><p><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;col=
or:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0</span></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquo=
te></div></div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-8812779255913283534yiv2506447137gmail-m_=
-8079925845824224077ydp77bda05ayahoo_quoted_5057180910"><div><div><div id=
=3D"gmail-m_-8812779255913283534yiv2506447137gmail-m_-8079925845824224077yd=
p77bda05ayqt94111"><p style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10pt;font-family:&quot;helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=
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