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Hello Dr. Fraser,
I'd call it a FELTED material. Many things were made of this stuff=C2=A0 ba=
ck in the day.But regardless, those are the little devils; 2 per door, one =
on each shaft.
Jim ArmstrongMk 1A=C2=A0 2083
In a message dated 6/19/2020 1:43:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, rfraser@blue=
frog.com writes:
This is a follow up on this subject.
=C2=A0
Donuts look like compressed paper to me
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OD =3D 1.54=E2=80=9D
ID =3D .486=E2=80=9D
Thickness =3D .39=E2=80=9D=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 2nd spacer =3D .335=E2=80=9D
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Ron Fraser
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From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Joe Brown
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 11:35 AM
To: James Armstrong <rollright@aol.com>
Cc: sunsp22@comcast.net; Tigers Den <tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Door project; what I learned
=C2=A0
Thanks to everyone for all of this information.=C2=A0 I put my doors back t=
ogether about a week ago and realized from this discussion that I left out =
the donuts. I found my old ones but I don't have enough for all of the hand=
les and the ones I do have are rough.=C2=A0 I don't see them in the SS cata=
log so I may attempt to make some from some masonite or something.=C2=A0=C2=
=A0
Can somebody verify what the total thickness of one of the full donuts is?=
=C2=A0 One of mine that still looks good measures .33", but it might have s=
wollen up over the years.=C2=A0
Thanks,
Joe Brown
=C2=A0
On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 5:50 PM James Armstrong via Tigers <tigers@autox.te=
am.net> wrote:
Gentlemen,
First off, you are terrific and we are better together. Always.
=20
What I learned:
- both the window crank shaft and the door opening shaft each use two (2) f=
elt donuts or four half donuts(4)=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0p=
er=C2=A0 door to set up proper door panel position and rigidity
- Rick has these in stock if you need them
- the door handle and the window crank have very small rubber anti-rattle t=
ubes in the actuator insertion cavity.
=C2=A0=C2=A0Dr. Ron Fraser gave the dimensions, tentatively as; Dimensions =
- .35? x .384?=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 .293? thick=20
- the chrome collar should slide easily into the black plastic collar with =
or without spring. If not, make it so.
- The original fixing pins were tapered so that they could be inserted with=
a positive stop. Almost no-one has=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0these today and new ones have been fabricated from nails. Extra a=
ssembly effort required but OK
- remember to check for anti-rattle padding behind the door flat actuating =
plate that goes from the handle area=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0to the latch=
and travels right over the big window mechanism opening in the door
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 You'll see traces of old glue where it was. You can use any k=
ind of dampener. Prevents a major rattle on=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0door closer/slam
Thanks to all that contributed and lent a hand!
=20
Jim Armstrong
Mk 1A
382002083 LRXFE
Code 86
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<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;
color: #000000;">Hello Dr. Fraser,</span></div>
<div><br></div>
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<div style="color: #000000; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 13.3333px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans:
2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;"><span
style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color:
#000000;">I'd call it a FELTED material. Many things were made of this
stuff back in the day.</span></div>
<div style="color: #000000; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 13.3333px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans:
2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;"><span
style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color:
#000000;">But regardless, those are the little devils; 2 per door, one on each
shaft.</span></div>
<div style="color: #000000; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 13.3333px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans:
2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;"><br></div>
<div style="color: #000000; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 13.3333px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans:
2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;"><span
style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color:
#000000;">Jim Armstrong</span></div>
<div style="color: #000000; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 13.3333px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans:
2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;"><span
style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color:
#000000;">Mk 1A 2083</span></div>
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color: #000000;"><br></span></div>
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In a message dated 6/19/2020 1:43:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,
rfraser@bluefrog.com writes:
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solid;">
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<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal">This is a follow up on this subject.</p>
<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal">Donuts look like compressed paper to me</p>
<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal">OD = 1.54”</p>
<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal">ID = .486”</p>
<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal">Thickness =
.39”
2<sup>nd</sup> spacer = .335”</p>
<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal">Ron Fraser</p>
<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal"><strong>From:</strong> Tigers
<tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Joe
Brown<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Saturday, May 30, 2020 11:35
AM<br><strong>To:</strong> James Armstrong
<rollright@aol.com><br><strong>Cc:</strong> sunsp22@comcast.net; Tigers
Den <tigers@autox.team.net><br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Tigers]
Door project; what I learned</p>
<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal">Thanks to everyone for all of this
information. I put my doors back together about a week ago and realized
from this discussion that I left out the donuts. I found my old ones but I
don't have enough for all of the handles and the ones I do have are
rough. I don't see them in the SS catalog so I may attempt to make some
from some masonite or something. </p>
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<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal"><br></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal">Can somebody verify what the total thickness
of one of the full donuts is? One of mine that still looks good measures
.33", but it might have swollen up over the years. <br></p>
</div>
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<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal"><br></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal">Thanks,</p>
</div>
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<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal">Joe Brown</p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal"> </p>
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<div>
<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal">On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 5:50 PM James
Armstrong via Tigers <<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target="_blank"
rel="noopener noreferrer">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><span
style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif; color:
black;">Gentlemen,</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family:
'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">First off, you are terrific and we are
better together. Always.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family:
'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;"> <br></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family:
'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">What I learned:</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family:
'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">- both the window crank shaft and the door
opening shaft each use two (2) felt donuts or four half donuts(4)
per door to set up proper door panel position
and rigidity</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family:
'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">- Rick has these in stock if you need
them</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family:
'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">- the door handle and the window crank have
very small rubber anti-rattle tubes in the actuator insertion
cavity.<br> Dr. Ron Fraser gave the dimensions, tentatively as;
</span><em><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'New serif', serif;
color: black;">Dimensions - .35? x .384? .293?
thick</span></em> <span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',
sans-serif; color: black;"><br>- the chrome collar should slide easily into the
black plastic collar with or without spring. If not, make it so.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family:
'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">- The original fixing pins were tapered so
that they could be inserted with a positive stop. Almost no-one has
these today and new ones have been
fabricated from nails. Extra assembly effort required but OK</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family:
'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;">- remember to check for anti-rattle padding
behind the door flat actuating plate that goes from the handle area
to the latch and travels right over the big window
mechanism opening in the door</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family:
'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;"> You'll see traces of old glue
where it was. You can use any kind of dampener. Prevents a major rattle
on door closer/slam</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family:
'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;"><br>Thanks to all that contributed and lent
a hand!</span></p>
</div>
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<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family:
'Arial', sans-serif; color: black;"> <br></span></p>
</div>
</div>
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<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal">Jim Armstrong</p>
</div>
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<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal">Mk 1A</p>
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<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal">382002083 LRXFE</p>
</div>
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<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal">Code 86</p>
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<p class="yiv0179606969MsoNormal">TAC #....</p>
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