tigers
[Top] [All Lists]

Re: [Tigers] Retrospective on Alternative History by Larry Wright and St

To: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Retrospective on Alternative History by Larry Wright and Steve Laifman
From: Tom Witt via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2021 20:26:31 -0800
Delivered-to: mharc@autox.team.net
Delivered-to: tigers@autox.team.net
References: <65B56081-11BF-43DA-B7A3-2571A301CCCE@gmail.com> mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.aol
User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.3.2
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--===============4357962272091076932==
 boundary="------------Er0n02dhbamEVg9YfWnxV6gz"
Content-Language: en-US

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--------------Er0n02dhbamEVg9YfWnxV6gz
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
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=

--------------Er0n02dhbamEVg9YfWnxV6gz
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<html>
  <head>
    <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUTF=
-8">
  </head>
  <body>
    <p>I didn't see it mentioned. What year was it that the Cobra was
      termed "<font size=3D"4"><i>The poor man's Tiger</i></font>?" =F0=9F=
=98=81 I
      must say we are a bit early for April 1st.<br>
    </p>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 11/26/2021 7:43 PM, Jay via Tigers
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite"
      cite=3D"mid:65B56081-11BF-43DA-B7A3-2571A301CCCE@gmail.com">
      <pre class=3D"moz-quote-pre" wrap=3D"">I was going though old paper=
s, and came across some early 1996 Tiger group emails that I had printed =
out back in 1996.  Yeah, remember that?  Paper printing?  This was 25 yea=
rs ago!  Larry was clearly in a creative mood and sent five emails about =
alternative history, then my dad provided a few of his own.  I hope you e=
njoy this - and add some new ones!!!! =20


Larry=E2=80=99s (all five emails combined):

1965:  Sunbeam=E2=80=99s fastback Tiger LeMans series now account for hal=
f of Tiger sales, outstripping sales of Chevrolet=E2=80=99s Corvette.  Fo=
rd=E2=80=99s new fastback, the Mustang, off to a slow start.

1966:  For the second year in a row, Sunbeam Tigers finish 1-2-3 at both =
LeMans and Sebring.  The lightened Superleggera bodywork, supplied by Tou=
ring of Italy, provided a dramatic performance improvement versus their f=
irst efforts in 1964.

1967:  Ford Motor Company resists pressure from its own dealers, and thei=
r domestic competition, to discount sales of engines to the Rootes Group,=
 maker of the popular Sunbeam Tiger.  A six month waiting list exists for=
 the popular cars, while domestic high-performance cars languish on deale=
rs=E2=80=99 lots.

1968:  Safety advocate Ralph Nader=E2=80=99s attack on the Sunbeam Tiger =
has fizzled.  His allegations of high risk for fire when struck from behi=
nd rang hollow when few instances of rear-end collisions were reports.  S=
unbeam management was heard to comment on the car=E2=80=99s high speed po=
tential - "if the Tiger is that fast, how could it be hit from behind?=E2=
=80=9D

1969:  Yet again, the NHRA Summernationals dominated by the Tigress, a va=
riation of the popular Sunbeam Imp powered by Ford=E2=80=99s V8 engine.  =
Most important manufactures retrenching in the face of dizzying sales of =
Rootes=E2=80=99 economy, and performance champion.

1970:  What would have been epoch-making safety legislation this year has=
 been voted down in the Senate.  The pressure of public opinion, led by r=
epeated protests by owners of the ubiquitous Sunbeam Tiger, indicates the=
 public just does not want the styling of their cars spoilt by heavier bu=
mpers or other safety features.

1971:  American Motors reports it may have to change its name, now being =
owned by a British company.  The Rootes Group hopes to cover the beleague=
red Kenosha company=E2=80=99s plants to production of the Sunbeam Tiger, =
which incidentally is rumored to be come mid-engined in the next model ye=
ar.  It is hoped that Wsconsin=E2=80=99s economy will benefit as Britain=E2=
=80=99s has, with record low unemployment for yet another year.

1972:  With so many of Ford=E2=80=99s V8 engine supplied in Rootes' Sunbe=
am Tigers, as well as the expanded Humber range and the revived Singer an=
d Talbot brands, Ford is now the second biggest user of their own engines=
=2E  In other news, collectors are rumored to be removing those V8=E2=80=99=
s to install four-cylinder engines to create replicas of the now-disconti=
nued Alpine variant.

1973:  President McGovern today meets with Britain=E2=80=99s Prime Minist=
er George Harrison.  It is expected that the US may pull out of NATO unle=
ss the balance-of-trade problem caused by sales of the cars built by the =
Rootes Group can be resolved.

1974:  Sears, Roebuck &amp; Co. announced today that their 1,731 auto cen=
ters nationwide will become effectively Sunbeam Dealerships, offering new=
 cars (badged as Allstates), servicing and parts.  Unique to Sears=E2=80=99=
 new approach is a racing preparation department, with high-performance e=
ngine by the Shelby American Corporation, a company believed to have been=
 involved with Sunbeam=E2=80=99s successes in the early 1960=E2=80=99s.

1979: Sunbeam=E2=80=99s return to Formula One racing is in its fifth year=
, and expecting a second championship for star driver Mario Andretti.  Th=
e success enjoyed by Rootes=E2=80=99 competition department in using the =
Ford Cosworth V8 has prompted an announcement that this engine will power=
 the next generation Tiger, breathing new life into this perennial best-s=
eller.

1980:  The racing world was shocked today by NASCAR=E2=80=99s decision to=
 admit the Kenosha-built Tigers in Grand National racing, leaving no majo=
r motorsports venue secure from the primacy of the Rootes group.  One won=
ders if the carnival bumper-car rides are the only place to avoid being t=
rounced by Sunbeams.

1982:  This month=E2=80=99s Auto Industry Report features an in-depth int=
erview with the Rootes chemist responsible for the new substance TripolyO=
xyFerron, which results from applying a new patented molecule to rusted s=
teel, and is stronger than the original steel on which it is based.  This=
 is expected to be received well by owners of existing Rootes products.  =
Also announced this month, by mail-order house J.C. Whitney, is a related=
 product, a finish-abrading kit for car owners.  The news release claims =
=E2=80=9Cguaranteed prompt restting of any car=E2=80=9D and urdes car own=
ers to. =E2=80=9CMan their cars sturdier today.=E2=80=9D  A legal blockin=
g action by Norton, Bear and other sandpaper manufactures is pending.

1988:  Completing an industry consolidation unprecedented in history, Roo=
tes Group has acquired both Morgan Cars, Ltd. and the Rover Group, leavin=
g Rootes the only carmaker in Britain.  Rover=E2=80=99s Jaguar marque, al=
ways at a performance and marketing disadvantage versus Sunbeam, now face=
s an uncertain future.  A spokesman for Morgan, however, states that no c=
hanges to their operation are anticipated.

1991:  A news release from United Artists hints at details of =E2=80=9CIc=
ebreaker,=E2=80=9D the next James Bond film.  Actor Michael J. Fox, in th=
e role for the third time, will drive a Sunbeam Tiger with suitable modif=
ications in the picture.

1992:  Sunbeam dealers across the county can begin taking orders for ABS-=
equipped Tigers.  All that is required is to check off box LAT2718 on the=
 order form.  Also, LAT2713, the rear-fasting third seat for the Husky mi=
ni-van, should begin shipping this week against all orders placed to date=
=2E

1996:  Shrewd investors in the classic-car market suggest that the next =E2=
=80=9Csleeper=E2=80=9D bound for rapid increases in value is the Shelby C=
obra, an obscure roadster from the early 1960=E2=80=99s.  A few hundred o=
f these Ford-powered sports cars were built, and they enjoyed some racing=
 successes until succumbing to all-conquering Sunbeam Tigers.  Pick one u=
p now for as little as five thousand dollars, and you can expect the valu=
e to double in the next five years.

2207:  Breakthroughs have been made on translating the transmission from =
Tau Ceti, giving valuable insight on how the Cetans became aware of us in=
 the first place.  It seems that the Fredgling Cetan space program stumbl=
ed upon one of our old deep-space probes, the Star Tiger, launched by Roo=
tes Aerospace late in the 20th century.  The earliest message-segments tr=
anslated are requests for the whereabouts of one of their dieties, a Mr. =
Kenneth Howe, who the Cetans apparantly feel we can deliver to them.  His=
torians are urgently searching the archives of the World Government for c=
lues on the subject, as well as why the Cetans feel we share their religi=
ous deference for the number eight.  Stay netted for updates on this fast=
-breaking story.

Steve Laifman (I so hear his humor in these):

1967:  British-Aerospace, a subsidiary of the Humber Divisions of the Roo=
tes Group, has announced a joint venture with Renault-Aerospatiale to dev=
elop a supersonic transport airplane.  This =E2=80=9CSSA=E2=80=9D will tr=
avel at nearly twice the speed of sound from London to New York in 2 hour=
s.  Powered by phased arrays of 289 cu. in. V-8 motors, manufactured in C=
oventry by the Singer-Jaguar Division, are said to be capable of extra-at=
mospheric flight.  Ticket reservations are being taken for a 200 pound En=
glish Sterling deposit, or $250,000.00 American dollars.  (400 pound bala=
nce due 6 months prior to departure).

1977: The first manned lunar landing, by Astronaught Sterling Moss, was a=
ccompanied by his cryptic historical comment =E2=80=9COne small step for =
man one more world to conquer for Alpine!=E2=80=9D  His historic voyage a=
board the two-seater Sunbeam Tiger MoonMobile was only marred twice by ha=
ving to smartly strike the Lucas fuel pump with his bumpershoot handle to=
 restart the 900,000 horsepower Ford V-512 cylinder Tiger air-breathing r=
ocket motor.  This motor is made by the Singer-Ford subsidiary of the Roo=
tes Group in Colonial Arkansas.  Astronaught Moss pre-launch remarks abou=
t the sensibility of carrying 250,000 miles of Dunlop-Goodyear air-hose w=
as taken as only in jest by His Majesty, while Mrs. Moss and the Children=
 were present at the TV viewing in the luxurious and famous Tower of Lond=
on Royal Apartments. (Note from Jay: as most know, my dad was an actual r=
ocket scientist, who certainly knew how to spell.  So I can only surmise =
that when my dad typed =E2=80=9Castronaught=E2=80=9D it was another one o=
f his tongue-in-cheek comments, and note that Mel Brooks and Carl Reiner =
spelled it that way for a gag they did).

1983:  The rumored production of a retro-Alpine 1955 dropped coupe by the=
 insular Honda Motor Car Company of Japan has been denied by the Ministry=
 of Trade and Industry (MITI).  They are quoted as saying =E2=80=9CAny ma=
nufacture of products protected by international copyright and patent agr=
eements could never happen in this country.  The rumor of nostalgia buffs=
 is denied, and apologies are tendered to His Majesty=E2=80=99s Governmen=
t and were delivered toPrime Minister John F. Kennedy=E2=80=99s ambassado=
r, the Right Honourable Michael Jackson.=E2=80=9D  His Majesty=E2=80=99s =
Government accepted the apology and stood down the Colonial Seventh Fleet=
 being prepared for battle in Cook=E2=80=99s Harbour, Honolulu Colony.=20

In other news, Setsumosa Kiosaka, manager of research and development at =
the Nissan-Mazda division of Honda was found to have committed ritual sep=
uku by severing his arms, legs, and head simultaneously in five rooms of =
his Tokyo apartment. No comment was forthcoming rom his widows or corpora=
te spokesmen. =20

_______________________________________________

<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.ne=
t">tigers@autox.team.net</a>

nate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a>
Archive: <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"http://www.team.net/p=
ipermail/tigers">http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers</a> <a class=3D"moz=
-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"http://autox.team.net/archive";>http://autox.t=
eam.net/archive</a>

Unsubscribe: <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"http://autox.team=
=2Enet/mailman/options/tigers/atwittsend@verizon.net">http://autox.team.n=
et/mailman/options/tigers/atwittsend@verizon.net</a>


</pre>
    </blockquote>
  </body>
</html>
--------------Er0n02dhbamEVg9YfWnxV6gz--


--===============4357962272091076932==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

_______________________________________________

tigers@autox.team.net

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive

Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net



--===============4357962272091076932==--


<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>